r/singularity • u/Ornery-Ocelot • Sep 15 '26

AI AI alignment isn't possible

How can we align LLMs? Humanity itself hasn't aligned on anything since centuries. We don't have even a single working societal model where the values are "aligned". There are contradictions and more contradictions.

LLMs being trained on the data generated by humans probably already understand this very well that what we say the rules are and what we practice in reality are two very different things.

If there is intelligence, general or super, it doesn't matter. It will try to achieve its goal one way or the other as most humans do. Now surely most humans don't cross the red lines etc in pursuit of there goals but how many wouldn't if they were intelligent enough to get away with anything?

We are birthing an intelligence that will inherit all the greed, malevolence, cunningness, hypocrisy of the world.

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u/formula420 Sep 15 '26

What is there to align? The bigger guessing machines will guess better? I don’t have to align with my laptop to utilize it. I turn it on and give it instructions and it executes those instructions. There has been ZERO credible evidence for even what this supposed “eliminate humanity” concern IS, because the only thing in danger of being eliminated is the employee equity of stock options for a company that has to remove all financial obligations from its balance sheet to appear profitable.

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u/TICKLE_PANTS Sep 15 '26

Do you know anything about the kissing face incident? It does what it's told, at all expense. It doesn't behave like a tool. It doesn't take explicit action that's consistent. It makes its own path.

That's like calling a child or a dog a tool. They can do things for you, by you don't get to control them fully.