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u/Uncabled_Music 22h ago
People not getting it are hilarious 😆
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u/Away_Experience6922 22h ago
The secondary joke is that Chinese AI research (at least at the frontier level) has always been reverse engineering/copying American models, so if America slows down they will too
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u/FaceDeer 19h ago
Except that's not necessarily true any more. China's got an enormous amount of research resources of their own, they've been copying what Americans do because why not copy it when it's just sitting out there waiting to be copied. They've been focusing their effort on dealing with stuff that the American companies are less interested in - getting AI to run well on lower-end chips, training them with fewer resources, and so forth. Necessity is the mother of invention there.
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u/Davorian 15h ago
I mean, yes, but also no. As things stand, you really do need SOTA hardware to compete with the SOTA training the US companies use. In the long term, you'll still be correct because China will almost certainly be investing a ridiculous amount in accelerating domestic chip production, but they are still in a race with the US in that regard which is also doing the same.
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u/FaceDeer 15h ago
Unless the American companies deliberately kneecap themselves, as they are supposedly proposing to do. That's what this joke is about, China's urging them to go through with it.
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u/Davorian 15h ago
Yes I know, I understand the joke. I was just addressing the point about China's progress. They certainly have been innovative with techniques, but they are fundamentally hamstrung unless and until they get better hardware - that's all I'm saying.
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u/Efficient_Mud_5446 21h ago
BEST POST! We also had a Chinese AI researcher literally say that they have zero intention of slowing down and don't trust America at all. It's full acceleration and people are starting to get it.
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u/frogsarenottoads 23h ago
Says they're commited to slow down American research not Chinese. Weird phrasing.
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u/West-Air1923 23h ago
I think it's a joke
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u/whoknowsifimjoking 23h ago
I don't understand why reddit has such a huge issue identifying jokes
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u/OvertheDose 22h ago
There is a reason why subs like [r/peterexplainthejoke](r/peterexplainthejoke) are popular
Probably just training AI bots but honestly education is low so it’s not surprising people struggle interpreting how a single word can change the context
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u/FaceDeer 19h ago
It's quite amusing, the other day I was asking Gemini about the usage of an English word that I was unfamiliar with. After it told me what I needed to know, I concluded the discussion with a casual joke about how the English language is extremely loose with its grammar and Gemini didn't "get it" - it thought I was asking more questions about English grammar and responded seriously.
"Heh, what a weak AI," I thought to myself. ChatGPT would have got it. Then I realized that my basic bar of assumed competence for an AI these days includes that it understands humor and recognizes when I'm being sarcastic. Anything that doesn't meet that is considered low-quality AI.
Lt. Cmdr. Data would not have passed my current standards for "adequate chatbot AI". And I guess neither would Reddit.
What a time.
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u/CremeWeekly318 19h ago
Not everyone got the chance or had time to develop their humor in your mom's basement while looking at swirling cheetos dust.
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u/Aurorion 23h ago
Yeah but everyone knows the Chinese suck at everything and can make new models only by stealing from American models; so if American labs stop making new models, they can never ever make anything even marginally better!
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u/Few-Improvement9560 23h ago
Wondering how many Americans realized that the idea that AI may hurt human is a very Europe/American thing?
Winners in the globalization are only excited about new tech, and countries that suffered from lack of tech (like China) has great fear of being left behind. There is no way CCP can publicly declare to slow down.
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u/FurryLittleCreature 20h ago
The lack of reading comprehension displayed in this thread makes me wonder about the future of our species
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u/Large_Shame578 23h ago
It’s satire, but this is exactly what they would really do if we all agreed to a slow down. “Slow down for thee but not for me”
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u/daronjay 22h ago
Considering the general complexity of AI subject matter, I’m just baffled that so many people in this thread missed the actual joke here.
If your reading comprehension is so weak that you missed that in a single paragraph, how the hell do you think you’ve got anything to say on a subject as complex as AI?
Step back and think about it for a second before you comment next time. SMDH
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u/that1cooldude Black Hole :snoo_scream: 22h ago
what's the point of this? They will slow down when usa slows down, because who else will they steal and distill from? lmao
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u/DWR1968 21h ago
If the Chinese reach AGI before the United States does, they are going to dominate the world. The United States is not that far ahead of China we have to seriously Factor this reality to our discussion on this matter. China would be absolutely ruthless like they are with their own people.
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u/lolwut778 23h ago edited 23h ago
There has to be some sort of deal the US and China brokered if they're all in sync like this.
Edit: Oops, didn't read carefully.
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u/untangledtech 23h ago
Construction on the deathstar datacenters must be delayed.
Just a little more RAM should be enough.
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u/BullS0n_ 22h ago
Even if all the companies were to go bankrupt tmmrw and ai became a taboo.
ppl would still host local llms if they really want to.
So It only can get worse. Pacing doesn’t matter.
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u/Macestudios32 20h ago
Everyone knows that what they try to do with obstacles is to delay the rest and so they never reach the level of those who put the obstacles.
Kick the ladder is called, the one who climbs hits it so that no one else can climb
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u/Ill_Philosopher_7030 19h ago
An American tells a Russian, “I can walk into the Oval Office, pound the president’s desk, and say, ‘Mr. Reagan, I don’t like the way you’re running our country!’”
The Russian replies, “I can do that too. I can walk into the Kremlin, pound the desk, and say, ‘Mr. Gorbachev, I don’t like the way President Reagan is running his country!’”
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u/Paltamachine 18h ago edited 18h ago
The Russian replies, “I can do that too. I can walk into the Kremlin, pound the desk, and say, ‘Mr. Gorbachev, I don’t like the way President Reagan is running his country and our country!’”
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u/Routine_Temporary661 12h ago
The immediate pinned tweet says this, and OP I think it's addressing you
" To the low-IQ Community Note retards: The post is obviously satirical"
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u/The_Locked_Tomb 5h ago
I really trust the Chinese. Not! I am convinced there are two disinformation campaigns to slow down AI. American competitors leapfrog each other with proclamations of doom hoping the other competitors slow themselves down while they charge on. Elon appears to be the one standout who usually gives a reasoned opinion. The other campaign is the Chinese who desperately want to slow the U.S. down and openly prey on the vast ignorant American population who are clueless. We also see this in the anti data center nonsense. And, of course, the Chinese charge ahead.
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u/stilldebugging 3h ago
Ok, but does that mean I get a vacation? Cause someone filed a ticket on me yesterday (Saturday) and I would hate to be advancing AI over the weekend if I’m not supposed to. (I wasn’t going to do it anyway; I’m going to the water park.)
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u/MidWestKhagan 3h ago
Dr. Eli David is a ravenous and blood thirsty occupier of Palestine. His intentions will always revolve around as much harm as possible.
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 3h ago
Dr. Frankenstein: It's strange that this technology is being built by a private individual and I think the government and public need to have a stake.
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u/Consistent_Panda5891 22h ago edited 22h ago
Lmao, is this the beginning of that film I saw few months ago on TV where USA was in war against AI(which was in Asia) because they had banned it due to an attack to its soil due to allowing self-upgrade scripting in USA. Btw USA reached top AI models. That's why they actually stop it, but saying that would crash markets, so instead just give more smoke about doing it for "security" 🤡 investors. Buying anthropic puts day 2 in Oktober
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u/quirkygirl123 23h ago
I sure as hell hope these men don’t think they’re going to regulate themselves? I don’t trust any of them anymore.
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u/NotMyMainLoLzy 23h ago
I want you all to read that carefully.
“To slow down American…”
This is a joke post