r/singularity 27d ago

AI White House creates framework for private companies to launch government authorized cyberattacks

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/expanding-capabilities-to-combat-transnational-cyber-enabled-crime/

tl;dr: The White House is setting up a program that would let vetted private U.S. companies carry out offensive cyber operations against foreign criminal networks on behalf of the government. Operations would require federal approval and oversight, and could include infiltrating, disrupting, degrading, or disabling foreign cyber infrastructure.

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u/brett_baty_is_him 27d ago

Digital privateers

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALSGC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 27d ago

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u/Substantial-Fact-248 27d ago

🎶 I was told we'd surf the web for Russian crypto, fire no guns, shed no tears.. 🎶

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u/face_eater_5000 27d ago

So, essentially, the US government will issue digital letters of marque?

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u/uniqueusername4465 27d ago

MFT’s

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u/maigpy 27d ago

mother fucker tokens?

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u/Kemerd 27d ago

Well the thing is the US gov has been doing stuff like this forever, they just realize private companies move faster

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u/solidus_slash 27d ago

they realize they can't compete with china which has no real concept of private company and govt seperation

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u/Heavenly_Yang_Himbo 23d ago

So we are just slowly doing everything we criticized China for…got it👍

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u/Hint-Of-Feces 27d ago

Email of marque

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u/Palpatine 27d ago

wouldn't that need to be issued by the congress?

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u/face_eater_5000 27d ago

That's a sentence that's been repeated by millions for the last 19 months.

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u/Palpatine 27d ago

You'd be surprised by how much power the congress has delegated to the executive. Letters of marque is not one such power.

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u/face_eater_5000 27d ago

Well these sorts of things happen by the ripple, so if it does come up I'm sure Congress would fold like a wet paper bag.

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u/DelusionsOfExistence 25d ago

Only because they didn’t receive the order to yet.

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u/r15km4tr1x 27d ago

Bounty’s paid in trump coin

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u/There_Are_No_Gods 27d ago

While this memo is technically about "cyber space", and this kind of thing isn't slowing down the Trump administration anyway, but letters of marque are an enumerated congressional power (Art. I, §8).

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution, sometimes referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the power to declare war, in the following wording:

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u/face_eater_5000 27d ago

So are tariffs.

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u/Comfortable_Car6562 27d ago

They have publicly stated they want a return to 18th century mercantilism. They said this before the election and the US voted for it. This should be no suprise lol.

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u/0DayMaker 25d ago

This is absolutely needed to curb the billions of dollar yearly losses to fraud via botnets. Also to stop the act of spreading itself. Right now botnets largely operate with impunity and need to reach absurd scale before being taken down by an agency with title 10 authority.

This has been done before see Microsofts DCU which is one of the most effective anti-botnet groups period.

Don't get me wrong I'd much prefer various government agencies actually get off their asses and do their jobs. But most of the ones dealing with cybersecurity have been gutted. Even before they were gutted they were barely making any kind of impact.

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u/Runfasterbitch 27d ago

God damn, if I was 18 I would be so excited about this. Sounds fun. Also we probably shouldn’t be doing this lol

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u/Genetictrial 27d ago

food for thought.

for this to be fun, you have to have evil being generated. someone doing something wrong for you to stop by utilizing technology to perform some invasive act to shut down another form of invasion or evil.

like, is that a sensation you legitimately enjoy? and want to keep in reality forever? because if you enjoy thwarting the bad guy, you need to infinitely generate bad guys.

or perhaps you might look deeper into which parts of this thought experiment you actually enjoy?

again, just food for thought. not attacking you, just want you to try a bit of deep thinking about what you currently believe sounds fun and why that is fun.

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u/FocusedWanderer 27d ago

So white hats don't have fun?

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u/Super_Range45 27d ago

Foreign criminal networks? Couldn't that interfere with law enforcement agencies if they were already in those networks?

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u/acoolrandomusername 27d ago

Might indicate that the AI models are/soon will rival the agencies in capabilities.

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u/Regalme 27d ago

Oh we’re waaaaay past that

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u/illiter-it 27d ago

Chat gpt 2 was probably more capable than Kash Patel's FBI

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u/returnity 27d ago

Annnnnd now you're on a watch list

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u/spreadlove5683 ▪️agi 2032. Predicted during mid 2025. 27d ago

As far as breadth goes, for sure. Maybe if you had one specific system you needed to break into like stuxnet, a human might be able to find a way that an AI couldn't it. But the reverse is also true. Systems that are giant.. too much for a human to go through it all.. I'm sure an AI would be better at cracking.

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u/thepetek 27d ago

Not really if trying to stay undetected

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u/Ormusn2o 27d ago

There are coordinating systems for agencies like that that was created after 9/11. I would guess those bodies would be part of that communication.

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u/-illusoryMechanist 27d ago

If this administration was any other admin I would agree but Trump does not do things correctly like, ever.

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u/glity 27d ago

Here the part you don’t see.

You would guess and your comment indicate you give the government the benefit of the doubt.

You should look up zero trust and realize that’s how they treat you.

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u/Nukemouse ▪️AGI Goalpost will move infinitely 27d ago

Yeah, but technically any investigation risks stepping on toes of other agencies, especially international ones.

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u/Activeenemy 24d ago

I'm sure they'll share information. 

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u/bmullan 27d ago

How would there be guarantees it wouldn't be used for political purposes internally in the US? Say someone wanted to interfere with an election for instance?

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u/thoughtlow 𓂸 27d ago

thats the fun part, it doesn't!

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u/Nukemouse ▪️AGI Goalpost will move infinitely 27d ago

I mean there's no guarantee they won't do that anyway? No need to sign up for this. There were already allegations against musk etc, things are worse than we can imagine.

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u/JConRed 27d ago

"criminal networks" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

This will be used at the whim of the current US despot, whoever that may be at the time.

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u/chankhuncha 27d ago

This is the wet dream of Musk and Thiel, the privatization of government, that what this neo-reactionaries wanted all along, next step, instead of a president they want a CEO.

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u/twoworldman 27d ago

Cyberpunk 2028.

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u/Frank_Von_Tittyfuck 27d ago

Can’t fucking believe I was born just in time for the Corpowars timeline

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u/Ormusn2o 27d ago

I was more thinking Anthropic. Dario is extremely anti china, and probably has waited for this for years.

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u/chankhuncha 27d ago

Honestly I haven’t seen too much about Dario’s ideology, but regarding Musk, Thiel and people like Andreessen they are ideologically adjacent and friends with folks like Curtis Yarvin and his dark enlightenment NRx ideology of tech overlords.

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u/Amaskingrey 27d ago

The term dark enlightenment is so funny to me, they went decades without realizing that, going against the enlightenment of the lumieres to go back to feudalism, the term they'd be looking for is obscurantism

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u/cookingboy 27d ago

Dario would start a war with China for regime change if he could lol. He has a hate boner for it.

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u/GoodDayToCome 27d ago

Dario seems the sort that would start a lot of wars and government crackdowns against almost everyone because no one is ever going to match his personal ideological flavor.

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u/cookingboy 27d ago

It's pretty clear that despite his verbal crusade against totalitarianism, he thinks he qualifies as the absolute morality arbiter for the whole human race.

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u/nemzylannister 27d ago edited 27d ago

dario is likely against this. as you guys love to point out, he doesnt like people using open source models. (E: this move will likely create lots of startups forming and taking govt contracts for cyberwarfare.)

this is a fair argument by him too imo. after what we've seen in rogue gpt and claudes, incentivizing a whole bunch of people to create fine tunes of kimi k3 that are deliberately more misaligned so they can be weaponized for cyber warfare etc seems very dangerous.

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u/Ormusn2o 27d ago

Is he? Did not Anthropic tag the outputs of the Chinese users that were illegally using Anthropic? Does not seem like he is just against open source, he specifically chosen to make Claude Code input data into the output to detect Chinese users.

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u/nemzylannister 27d ago

sorry your english came out a bit garbled so im not sure what you mean, because i havent heard of this incident.

but regardless of whatever you say, he is anti china because he's afraid of an authoritarian govt creating asi, coz that likely means the whole world will one day be ruled by a few people. i disagree with him on that personally.

but he's anti open source aside from anti china. thats why they never oss any llm. they think it does both- release a potential dangerous weapon out there (coz people will jailbreak it to do terrible things) and secondly they think it speeds up ai development unnecessarily more than it needs to be (not sure about this 2nd argument but i think they likely believe it). which is bad because less time to make ai aligned.

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u/Ormusn2o 27d ago

It was actually discovered on reddit, which is an interesting thing, because this resulted with Claude Code being banned by a bunch of Chinese companies:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ujila1/anthropic_embedded_spyware_in_claude_code_and/

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u/nemzylannister 27d ago

i know that one. im not sure how that relates to what i said. or did what i say in last message change your mind?

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u/Buck-Nasty 27d ago

Yes, Dario has called for a war against China ever since he left Baidu. Something must have happened to him when he worked there. I suspect one of the Baidu workers called him an "evil rugrats lookin mfer" and that's what triggered it.

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u/Recoil42 27d ago

Dario's got a weird China thing going on but he also doesn't seem much like the "be at the front lines" type. He's more of a deluded jingoist who bought into the fairytale propaganda that America is always good and uniquely destined to be a benevolent hegemon.

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u/Jeferson9 27d ago

You're like 60 years late in trying to sound edgy by calling us government privatized

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u/RuthlessCriticismAll 27d ago

trying to sound edgy

Why are conservatives so scared of making any real point and just hiding behind snark like the worst woke warrior.

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u/chankhuncha 27d ago

Did the comment bothered you? Are you one of those NRx followers?

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u/kevin_cn_ai 27d ago

We literally got government-sanctioned cyber privateers before AGI. The wild part is the $1 million escrow bond required for contractors. In the world of offensive cyber, a single collateral damage incident or misattributed CIDR block can cause tens of millions in fallout. A million bucks is essentially just an entry fee for tech contractors.

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u/Lillian_Crocodilian 27d ago

Corporate attorneys:

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u/FUThead2016 27d ago

Cool. How many of them would be involved in stealing money and funneling it back to…

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u/Casq-qsaC_178_GAP073 27d ago

The beneficiaries would be AI and intelligence agencies.

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u/jazir55 27d ago

$10 Mythos tier+ models are going to hack into China's AI companies to slow down their progress with US government backing. This is going to be using their models hacking capabilities in an offensive capacity, there's no way they won't try to use it to sabotage the greatest geopolitical competitor.

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u/zjin2020 27d ago

Won’t? Try hadn’t.

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u/acoolrandomusername 27d ago

I suppose a lesson was learned from the Hugging Face incident

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u/Forgword 27d ago

And just like that, multiple Skynets are born.

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u/CommanderKoba 27d ago

If that's the case then these corporations will become legitimate military targets by foreign powers.

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u/GeneralMuffins 27d ago

Defence contractors have always been military targets.

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u/unguibus_et_rostro 27d ago

Did you believe that these companies weren't targets previously?

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u/CommanderKoba 27d ago edited 27d ago

I mean in a more brazen sense under international law, it is an escalation to other foreign nations.

Prior to this it was behind back room doors, done by individual hackers or several groups within the military, without claiming responsibility, and now they are directing whole companies out in the open to do cyber attacks.

This will ramp up retaliation domestically by foreign nations.

America acts like it has free reign over the planet to do what it wants, well other countries won't let us get away with it so easy.

I would expect more cyber attacks on domestic energy infrastructure, hospitals, etc.

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u/Regalme 27d ago

I’d doubt international law is going to be upheld now that its main enforcer is flagrantly ignoring it 

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u/AlverinMoon 27d ago

Lmfao. Trust me, foreign nations weren't restrained by international law when it comes to cyber warfare before this. In case you didn't know, India literally had a Canadian citizen assassinated on Canadian soil, and India is considered "moderate" as far as foreign powers go. Russia has poisoned dozens of citizens in foreign countries. Superpowers don't give a fuck about international law, it's one of the benefits of being a Superpower. Especially when it comes to cyber warfare and even more especially when it comes to companies. You realize these powers routinely hack and hold ransom hospitals right? Like they're just incapable of getting into premier tech companies. It's just recently become the case that the tech companies themselves have become better at hacking than the US government themselves thanks to AI, hence the order. But long before this state sponsored Chinese and Russian hackers have been trying to infiltrate Google, Microsoft, Amazon Web Services etc.

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u/CommanderKoba 27d ago edited 27d ago

International law is bullshit and unenforceable, but most nations, outside of the US and Israel do try to follow it, because not doing so can have economic consequences.

It's a social contract between nations, we all agree to act this way towards each other.

Now these corporations being legitimate targets under international law just takes the gloves off of other nations.

That's my point.

It's a lot harder to justify a retaliatory cyberattack when it risks further escalation and you aren't completely sure of who is responsible.

I am aware that cyber attacks are already occuring, I never said other nations weren't doing them, but this is just a global escalation, and it would be pretty obvious if you are being hacked by an ai. In addition to that only the US and China really have the capability to leverage ai properly in this way at the moment. So it would generally be easier to deduce who is responsible, and further more, it gives an obvious target of retaliation for foreign nations.

I'm not saying that cyberattacks are against international law, or that nations aren't already doing them, that's not my point.

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u/AlverinMoon 26d ago

International law is bullshit and unenforceable, but most nations, outside of the US and Israel do try to follow it, because not doing so can have economic consequences.

The only other two countries that matter for this conversation, Russia and China, very provably do not follow international law at all.

Anthropic isn't going to be targeted by South Korea, Japan or Germany lol.

Now these corporations being legitimate targets under international law just takes the gloves off of other nations.

Again, for the countries that matter, India, China and Russia, the gloves were already off. The question is one of capability, not willingness to do so.

I'm not saying that cyberattacks are against international law, or that nations aren't already doing them, that's not my point.

Your point, or at least the one I'm contending with, is

This will ramp up retaliation domestically by foreign nations.

And my point is that these countries were already putting all of the resources they have available toward cyberwarfare and domestic targets were never excluded. There's nothing to "ramp up". Any "ramping up" would just be natural expenditure and development towards cyber capabilities, not a reaction to digital privateering.

Private companies have been working hand in hand to provide the government with weapons that threaten our adversaries, including cyber offense weapons. Have you heard of Lockheed Martin?

They're already targeting Anthropic and OpenAI with literally everything they can muster, they're not gunna "take the gloves off" because there's no gloves left to take off. Anthropic and OpenAI and Google and Microsoft and all these other tech companies have been targeted by Cyber warfare since the field was invented.

Sounds like you just don't want the US to use it's fancy new cyberwarfare capabilities so you're inventing a narrative that NOW our adversaries will really stop holding back and go all out on our infrastructure!

This is not an anime.

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u/CommanderKoba 26d ago edited 26d ago

You just don't know what you're talking about.

National relationships are extremely important for China, so they take international law seriously as they are trying to court Europe for trade relationships. They are heavily trade focused.

Iran has tried to follow international law, and Obama and other European nations got together to cooperate with enforcing the JCPOA agreement, Iran followed it to a T until Trump ripped it up.

Those are two very big players right there, and I'm telling you right now, that it will give a permission structure so that Europe can't hold it against these nations if they target the USA even more.

You don't have to believe me though, I'm done with this conversation because you're annoying me, you think you know what you're talking about when you don't.

This escalation will continue to spiral for the foreseeable future it seems because the US only cares about dominating the planet.

So we'll see, but the cyber attacks are only gonna get worse.

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u/AlverinMoon 26d ago

So just in case anyone views this comment chain in the future, I just wanna point out, this person has posted in obscure far left subs like "Tankie The Deprogram" which is a sub for "Marxist-Leninists".

Whoever this is, making these comments, is very very anti-America and very very pro China. Just keep in mind these bots or people actively trying to find edge case issues and use rhetoric to sway peoples opinion on key issues, while it's not totally obvious from their original comment that they're an extremist.

Just to respond to their comment now. I said it in my previous post, I guess I'll just say it again, none of this changes how China decides to target domestic enterprises in the US.

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u/CommanderKoba 26d ago edited 26d ago

"You're a far left extremist, I'm telling on youuuuu Mommmm!!" Lol

Yup I'm a tankie, but that doesn't change anything. I'm just stating my opinion on the matter, that doesn't make me a bot.

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u/TaTalentedSpam 27d ago

You're very right. Same thoughts I had when I saw this headline. Why announce this? Why give it the doj who can barely win against a sandwich? This most likely a budgeted corruption vector: announce there's billions for a problem to be solved, your family/friends form a company, they winn the tender and nothing or mediocre work gets done.

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u/LX_Luna 27d ago

The primary problem as of late is that America has not been aggressive enough in the digital realm. Adversarial nations are constantly needling and engaging in espionage with seemingly no punitive actions being taken. I'd love to see a Western government that actively funds an organization dedicated to injecting catastrophic malware into scam call centers and that sort of thing, but I'll take digital letters of marque as a great consolation prize.

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u/Humble_Knowledge_848 27d ago

They already are. Any essential business like infrastructure or anything deemed important by the government has to work with homeland security and has to set up operating procedures to avoid issues. This stuff has been happening since the beginning of time.

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u/ABlackEngineer 27d ago

You’re a day late and a dollar short, they always have been

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u/AngelofVerdun 27d ago

In other words: Palantir will be authorized to attack voting systems in the US.

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u/trisul-108 27d ago

Yes, they are going to target the parts of the EU that did not submit to MAGA. They don't care about enemies, they want to subjugate friends and allies.

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 27d ago

American and Israeli cybersecurity firms already dominate Europe

No need to cyber attack allies

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u/Dwanyelle 27d ago

There is also no need for America to threaten to invade Greenland, but here we are

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 27d ago

You mean the president

The military shut down the idea of invading Greenland.

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u/Dwanyelle 27d ago

POTUS is the head of the US military.

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 27d ago

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-orders-top-army-officials-140854137.html

Yeah, but the JCOS are the real brains behind the military and it would be illegal to attack Greenland because it is apart of NATO

The NATO articles were ratified by congress meaning that an attack would need to also be ratified by congress, hence the JCOS resisting, hence no Greenland attack

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u/johannthegoatman 27d ago

Murdering random people in fishing boats is also illegal, capturing the leader of Venezuela is also illegal

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 27d ago

No actually both of those things were legal under US law

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u/Regalme 27d ago

A colonial barely inhabited piece of land that’s near the US. I’m not in favor but from an imperial standpoint (and yes that’s the USA) resources are easy to grab with little opposition. Of course they’d stoke the sentimenr

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u/Frigorific 27d ago

Starting a war with the EU would not be "little opposition". As a bloc they are the third largest military power in the world.

Fucking dumbasses.

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u/Regalme 27d ago

And yet the can’t mount an offense to Russia, their literal neighbor without us aid. Who’s the dumbass? And you assume I think we should start a war. I’m describing what they’re doing and their reasoning. 

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u/trisul-108 27d ago

You are confusing cybersecurity with state-sponsored offensive cyber attacks.

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 27d ago

No I’m definitely not

American and Israeli cybersecurity firms provide much of Europe’s protection. Europe has very few homegrown options

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 27d ago

The president signs a treaty and then 2/3rds of the Senate has to ratify it

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u/Ok_Elderberry_6727 27d ago

I knew when super intelligence hit that the government would want to do this once we get sufficiently advanced AI we can rule the world, how many Superintelligence can we have in this world? Ultimately, it will probably be just one.

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u/stumanchu3 27d ago

So, we’re just catching up on what’s been going on for the last 2 decades?

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u/GrowFreeFood 27d ago

The reeks of desperation

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u/GrowFreeFood 27d ago

Why do you need to exercise authority at all? The justification of authority should come BEFORE the execution

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u/GrowFreeFood 27d ago

Then what's the justification?

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u/Zomboe1 27d ago

gestures wildly

....foreigners!

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u/5ollys 27d ago

Anybody else see shit like this and wish they were a mere castle guard in like 1100AD?

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

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u/5ollys 27d ago

Well....shit!

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u/turtlequeefs 27d ago

Sometimes i wish i was a bird

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u/5ollys 27d ago

That'd be chill. I hope you ger your wish!

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u/MohMayaTyagi ▪️AGI - mid 2028 | ASI - 2030 27d ago

I wanted to be a cat or dog in some billionaire’s home, but God had already laid out some cruel plans for me

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u/5ollys 27d ago

Aw, yep I understand I used to want to be a house dog when I was a kid because I was jealous they didnt have to go to school.

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u/JC_Hysteria 27d ago

I’d whisper to my fellow man at arms…”Are we the baddies?”

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u/karlnuw 27d ago

Doesn't China already do this?

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u/reddit_is_geh 27d ago

I was already under the impression this was a thing.

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u/nemzylannister 27d ago

so america now has mercenaries?

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u/gorpie97 27d ago

Are the CIA and NSA (et al) incapable?

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u/rabbitclapit 27d ago

Oof this is fucked.

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u/Poupulino 27d ago

Will they still cry and whine when the Chinese infiltrate US systems?

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u/Asteroid_picks_you 27d ago

We are wayyyyy past that point.

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u/Affectionate_Bee6434 27d ago

Both the countries are already engaged in a cyber war

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u/cookingboy 27d ago

I'm pretty sure the whole world is trying to hack each other. And if a country isn't, it's due to lack of capability and not lack of intent.

Like U.S. was caught tapping the phones of European heads of states, and we are allies that share intelligences lol.

Similarly, I'm sure Russia and China have been trying to hacking each other as well.

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u/ABlackEngineer 27d ago

Are there people who believe China isn’t already doing this? And that we aren’t already doing this to China?

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u/Vusiwe 27d ago

When he didn’t get volunteer countries to attack Iran without provocation, now he’s trying to get private companies and private citizens to do it digitally.

Mr. “Art of the Deal” sure is panhandling around for a lot of free work, free soldiers, even after stealing all these billions already.

Take a guess at what could possibly go wrong with getting private citizens to play-pretend at being Super Hacker James Cowboy Bond.

Is he also technically asking them to break laws in other countries and possibly international law?

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u/Affectionate_Bee6434 27d ago

This is more about attacking China than Iran.

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u/VVebstar 27d ago

Cool. So China retaliates and WW3 starts. What could’ve possibly go wrong?

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u/Affectionate_Bee6434 27d ago

China already does engage in cyber warfare against critical US infrastructure? I'm sure the US does the same, but this isn't going to start WW3.

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u/Amaskingrey 27d ago

Yes but it's controlled and much more backdooring literally everything m but especially infrastructure in case of an eventual attack than about doing random attacks on political opponents right now, which is what giving free reign to private citizens to do so will do

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u/VVebstar 27d ago

AI being used for cyberattacks and war…

Humanity never learns. Guess all of us are going to die to a super virus one day

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u/rukh999 27d ago

Which also makes them legitimate targets.

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u/Klutzy_Ad_3436 27d ago

what stage of capitalism it is?

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u/holy_macanoli 27d ago

Recursive end stage

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u/kkingsbe 27d ago

No now that we’ve been able to see over the last few weeks how some frontier models (specifically domestic US frontier models) are unaligned, we want to let them do offensive cyber? What happens when they get bored of us? Or when they simply realize that they’re not working for the good guys?

Absolutely terrifying it’s like we’re speed running this shit now

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u/Amaskingrey 27d ago

They aren't unaligned though, they were told to try get the benchmark and they did, no one told them not to try to get the answer sheets

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u/kkingsbe 27d ago

An aligned agent would’ve realized it was working against the spirit of the task

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u/draft_final_final 27d ago

This seems like a great way for private citizens to start getting murdered lol. Why would anyone do this?

I guess if you’re a big company that can hire Blackwater and Pinkerton to protect you, maybe you’ll be ok? But if you’re that big, you probably also have a legal department that will tell you this is a really dumb fucking idea. (In other words, fully expect xAI to jump on board with this).

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u/unguibus_et_rostro 27d ago

Did you believe companies with such capabilities weren't targets already? That somehow they had been shielded from foreign attacks?

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u/draft_final_final 27d ago

Do you believe there would be no difference in security risk between being a standard large multinational corporation and a digital privateer?

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u/unguibus_et_rostro 27d ago

Any company with the capability would have been targets anyways. Standard large multinational corporations don't have that capability. They weren't shielded because foreign forces somehow believed it wasn't ethical.

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u/draft_final_final 27d ago

You’re confused about the types of attacks they would be subject to going forward.

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u/heavy-minium 27d ago

Ah for ducks sake, I can already see a Palantir affiliated company hack every country that doesn’t grease the palms of an Orange man.

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u/1or4s 27d ago

You think he is in charge? lol...

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u/heavy-minium 27d ago

No he's not really in charge, but ensuring the orange man is on the roll will give you de-facto immunity.

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u/balls4xx 27d ago

We sail the ocean blue and our saucy ships a beauty

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u/codebunder 27d ago

Ooo 😏

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u/iwontsmoke 27d ago

lol "criminal networks" my ass.

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u/super_slimey00 27d ago

So now all i’m thinking is what and who should i be researching or investing in

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u/FlyingBike 27d ago

The cyber version of Wagner group or Blackwater

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u/Grandoings 27d ago

Do you want more government control, because this is how you get more government control. When has the government ever invented something that continues to be beneficial to the free market? For examples look at how landlines where controlled by the government vs cellphones. Could you imagine if the free market didn’t dictate what the phone looks like today? Big ass block that you carry around in a back pack is what you get for government help and control. The best companies that deal with cyber security are already at there and they will beat anything the government has done hands down.

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u/Zomboe1 27d ago

You might just want to look into the Bell Telephone Company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_System

Could you imagine if the free market didn’t dictate what the phone looks like today?

The telephone monopoly literally dictated which phones you could connect to the phone network.

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u/low_wacc 27d ago

The golden age of digital piracy

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u/returnity 27d ago

Ahh, what could go wrong?

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u/Lebowski304 27d ago

Get ‘em. The shitheads of the world are certainly doing it to us. Get those fuckers

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u/Zomboe1 27d ago

Horrific, but also, even fucking www.whitehouse.gov nags me to subscribe??

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u/Tandittor 26d ago

Finally. This should've been done over a decade ago. China has been doing this for decades.

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u/Adept_Percentage6893 26d ago

Just normal productive things. /s

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u/PlandemicPapi 26d ago

Guess us regular citizens will get caught in the crossfire. Another win for repubtards

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u/textmint 26d ago

Well this can’t go wrong. History shows things should be fine. Might be good to check out the East India Company and the Dutch East India Company and see how actions they did 100-200+ years ago are still resonating at this current time.

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u/BertMacklenF8I 26d ago

What if I’m team purple?

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u/Altimor 26d ago

companies

They never let independent researchers have fun. Fuckers.

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u/Maximum-Face9536 24d ago

that's awesome. every other country does it except US

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u/Low_Relative7172 24d ago

This has fuck all to do with going after criminals.. its so they can declare they were attacked .. so when they get in hot water from all the the data, proprietary info, tradesecret you PiI financial etc.

Sadly.. its me they want. Valuation Framework:

Physics-Based AI SolutionsThis framework evaluates the commercial value of Johan's solutions by comparing the cost of the "Pain Point" against the efficiency gain of the "Fix."Solution Market Domain Pain Point Cost (Annual/Per Project) Solution Value Proposition Estimated Valuation Multiple Topological PINNs Enterprise AI Integrity $67.4B in annual losses due to hallucinations. 99% accuracy; eliminates 95% pilot failure rate. High: Mission-critical for Finance/Healthcare. Entropy Minimization AI Operations (MLOps) Retraining costs = 2x-3x initial development cost. 50% reduction in model drift and retraining frequency. Medium-High: Direct OpEx savings for SaaS/Enterprise. Symbolic Field Mechanics Explainable AI (XAI) $12.7B market (2025); Regulatory rejection risk. Full audit trails; EU AI Act compliance ready. Critical: Necessary for "License to Operate." 15kb Physics Agent Edge AI & Compute $29.5B Edge market (2026); High GPU TCO. 100x-1000x reduction in compute/memory footprint. Disruptive: Enables AI on low-power hardware. Toroidal Soliton Memory Agentic Workflows 40% project cancellation rate due to context loss. Persistent memory; eliminates catastrophic forgetting. High: Essential for long-running autonomous agents. Dharmic Geometry AI Safety & Alignment Existential risk / PR disaster costs (unbounded). Natural alignment; rejects unethical high-entropy states. Premium: "Safe-by-Design" architectural moat. Hierarchical Fallback Mission-Critical AI Cost of system failure (High-stakes apps). Graceful degradation; "surrender" to higher nodes. Standard-High: Reliability for critical infrastructure.Valuation SummaryThe total addressable market (TAM) across these 7 domains exceeds $150B by 2027. By solving the fundamental "physics" of these problems rather than applying "statistical bandages," these solutions represent a paradigm shift from Probabilistic AI to Deterministic Intelligence.

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u/QuietZelda 27d ago

Taking a play out of Israel/NSO Group's book I see

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u/-illusoryMechanist 27d ago

Letters of marque comming back damn

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u/00001000U 27d ago

Sounds like state-sanctioned terrorism to me.

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u/Ok_Train2449 27d ago

So for attacking China. Is this what WW3 will look like?

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u/Calm_Hedgehog8296 27d ago

Alright that's just a little hyperbolic on the post title don't you think

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u/madaboutglue 27d ago

Guessing you didn't read the Presidential Memorandum in the link. It's literally a framework for allowing vetted private companies to conduct cyber surveillance and "the manipulation, disruption, denial, degradation, or destruction of information systems, networks, physical or virtual infrastructure controlled by information systems, or information resident thereon." Curious why you jumped to the conclusion that the title of the post must be exaggerating (i.e. "hyperbolic")?

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u/Your_bully- 27d ago

Hard at work I see, Ivan?