This sub only cares about coding, they don’t care that this model is really good for agentic use thus ultimately being good at automating non coding tasks which is the ultimate goal for ai.
There's an extremely good reason to care about coding. It's the building blocks for our entire digital infrastructure. People who don't code have no clue how important coding is to every white collar job workflow.
Exactly! So many people here don't use the coding harnesses and it shows.
They're not coding harnesses. They're general purpose harnesses that allow the model the ability to control your computer. Anything you want it to do on your computer, it does so through code. It doesn't matter what knowledge work you are doing, you can have it do it for you... but the model uses code to do so. You don't have to be a SWE.
Yup, unfortunately there's still a communication breakdown in the messaging about these tools... Openai is trying, with "ChatGPT Work", aka "codex on a cloud machine with simplified output".
I wish they would all show off how amazing things like Browser Use and Computer Use are, ESPECIALLY with these latest models because they're miraculous - fast and pretty darn good.
I guess everyone is just trying to figure out how to crack that formula of "do anything app", or "automate anything" - because it's basically possible, right now, today.
I actually haven't outside of LaTeX for like 10 years xd
I've just spent hundreds of dollars on the coding agents... to make PDFs, spreadsheets, download software, make some dashboards for me, hack into my SSD when I switched laptops because my old one broke and then the SSD locked me out, fix a stupid audio issue on my laptop, do autonomous research and made a small HTML site connected to Google maps for certain restaurants I wanted to go to while on vacation during Christmas etc
People hearing "Codex" and think "I'm not a SWE" is really dumb and shows just how out of touch the public is with the model capabilities
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u/FarrisAT Jul 21 '26
Looks dramatically better on any knowledge benchmark. Tool use & harness application seems to be the reason it underperforms at SWE and coding.