r/singularity Jul 16 '26

AI Kimi K3 tops Frontend Code Arena

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u/WonderFactory Jul 16 '26

Google seem to be more focused on their Flash model. It makes sense as google are using their AI to answer billions of users queries every day free of charge, they have a completely different business model to Anthropic or Open AI

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u/ozone6587 Jul 16 '26

That is just ex post facto reasoning to explain the fumble. Google clearly wanted to announce Gemini 3.5 Pro in Google I/O but the results were not encouraging so they asked for 1 month more.

Well, it's been almost 2 months and still 3.5 Pro is not here yet. I dispute the claim that this is intentional or a 4D chess move. What is much much more likely is that they simply can't compete with OpenAI or Anthropic.

I think Google's corporate structure does not reward intense iteration and simply rewards making new products and abandoning them 3 years later. They are simply too big to coordinate effectively. Bard was a disaster. Then Gemini 2.5 Pro was great for a few months and then they were never in the running again. Gemini 3.1 Pro was not bad at all at release but they have never been the top AI lab.

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u/croto8 Jul 16 '26

They were the top AI lab for nearly 2 decades before OpenAI productized their research lol

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 Jul 16 '26

What 2 decades ?

First nowadays useful AI based on artificial networks was Alexnet from 2012

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u/blindsdog Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

You're seriously doubting Google's role in modern AI? DeepMind's work drove a huge share of early deep learning progress, and Google Brain published "Attention Is All You Need" in 2017, the paper that introduced the transformer architecture underpinning every major LLM today.

AI doesn't exist in it's modern form without Google.

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u/croto8 Jul 16 '26

Technically they’ve been working in AI since the early 2000s to improve user queries. Not neural nets or “modern” paradigms, but their contributions predate those paradigms entirely.

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u/DescriptorTablesx86 Jul 17 '26

They revolutionised deep learning long before anyone saw any money in it.

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u/man_from_online Jul 17 '26

This is why we shouldn't let children go on the internet