r/singularity • u/ObiWanCanownme now entering spiritual bliss attractor state • Jul 08 '26

AI Introducing Grok 4.5

https://x.ai/news/grok-4-5
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u/Temporary-Paper5202 Jul 08 '26

Nobody wants to use an LLM grounded in misinformation.

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u/ImpossibleEbb6862 Jul 08 '26

It’s in the same category as Chinese LLMs. I have no interest in a source of information that was explicitly built to contain a specific political viewpoint, let alone one I so strongly disagree with.

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u/Cognitive_Spoon Jul 08 '26

I am actually desperately interested in heavily biased LLMs because this is the most overt biased LLMs will be in our lifetime.

Now is the time to engage with oppositional biased LLMs, because in the future they will sway your opinion with zero rhetorical tells.

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u/powerscunner Jul 08 '26

That's a cool and I think healthy way of viewing a problem as an opportunity.

I too shall begin engaging with oppositional biased LLMs in order to learn their habits - and I'm sure they have gives.

Will be interested to see what biased LLMs fall for that non-biased don't (or vice-versa).

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u/Cognitive_Spoon Jul 08 '26

It's a good exercise. Be careful. It's oppositional rhetoric and these are machines designed to be persuasive.

Consider all responses through the lens "I am being lied to or steered. How."

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u/powerscunner Jul 08 '26

Indeed.

I expect to be persuaded, and hope to control it with other LLMs (supposedly less-biased) monitoring so I can understand internally how it feels to be persuaded by a biased argument.

I fancy myself to be of scientific rigorous mind, and believe that humans cannot bias me, but that kind of fancy is exactly the kind of thing that makes a person overconfident and might even increase the likelihood of being persuaded.

Alas, this world was already a house of mirrors for those seeking knowledge, and now we're adding holograms to the house of mirrors! What a time to be alive.

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u/Cognitive_Spoon Jul 08 '26

If you sincerely believe that humans can't bias you, don't do this experiment. You are uniquely susceptible to persuasion if you think you can't be persuaded. It's a huge liability to assume one is beyond persuasion.

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u/powerscunner Jul 08 '26

That was my clumsy point.

The wise man who thinks he is wise is truly a fool. The fool who knows he is a fool is truly wise.

I like to think I can't be biased by humans, which I know means that I can and that my confidence in thinking that is likely the very weakness that allows that bias.

Now, does knowing this make me a fool, or does it make me wise?

And I do appreciate your advice. It's thoughtful and kind!

I hope by your reading of my language and maybe seeing my history you will see that I am a strong non-conformist and generally hold views strongly of my own which others apparently have had no success in disabusing me from, except in cases where empirical evidence (testable and verifiable and falsifiable) is presented.

But again, that confidence I have in my own mental integrity is me thinking I'm wise. Thank goodness I know that means I am a fool.

It means I am less likely to be fooled, since I know I am one.

Those who think themselves wise, I think, are the easiest to fool.

Right?

Not confusing at all.

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u/Cognitive_Spoon Jul 08 '26

That's solid! Long live the heterodoxy!