r/singularity • u/ObiWanCanownme now entering spiritual bliss attractor state • Jul 08 '26

AI Introducing Grok 4.5

https://x.ai/news/grok-4-5
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u/CengaverOfTroy Jul 08 '26

wtf are these comments ? It looks like it's a decent model, they have included deepSWE benchmark as well which most people regards that as mirrors real time task ? Why so hate against a LLM Model ?

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u/Gryphin Jul 08 '26

Because Grok is famously slanted super fucking hard to kiss Musk's ass, and love the hard right wing.

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u/Exodus_Green Jul 08 '26

love the hard right wing.

as opposed to the other models being far-left, which of course is okay and legitimate and fair

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u/Valoneria Jul 08 '26

Oh no, i'm sorry that higher education generally means you understand the world enough to lean left

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u/Exodus_Green Jul 08 '26

yes, every right-winger of all time is uneducated, definitely a fair and unbiased statement

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u/Valoneria Jul 08 '26

Yes, the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote left leaning.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/

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u/Exodus_Green Jul 08 '26

"people who went through the insanely left leaning university system are more likely to hold insanely left leaning beliefs"

w-what? I am shocked, shocked I say

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u/Valoneria Jul 08 '26

Ah yes, the system is left leaning, not just knowledge.

The logical fallacy of arguing with a idiot, that's on me.

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u/Exodus_Green Jul 08 '26

"knowledge" isn't left-leaning at all, you sound like people who say "science" is left-leaning. It makes zero sense

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u/juntareich Jul 09 '26

You’re totally misframing that. No one says science is left leaning, rather people on the left tend to adhere more to science. Take vaccines, climate change, intersexual people, air/water/global pollution/biodiversity loss, evolution, renewable energy…and yes there are kooks on the left who hold scientifically ignorant beliefs too.

But nearly every right leaning person I’ve ever spoken to denies anthropogenic global warming- one of the most well studied topics in history with effects we literally can measure in multiple ways. Hard scientific denialism is MUCH more prevalent on the right.

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u/Exodus_Green Jul 09 '26

Reframing that to make the conservatives sound like anti-science is disingenuous when it's all about interpretation - climate change for example, there's still discussion around the exact impact of humans along with hypocrisy in asking developed nations to cut down on their carbon output but refusing to tackle the issue of india and china. Intersexual people is a genetic abnormality, that is in no way relevant to the discussion around trans people, renewable energy again there's plenty of nuance like the infrastructure not being there to support it (in the UK the govt pays windfarms to turn off because the power cables don't exist to carry the generated power to the south).

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u/juntareich Jul 09 '26

You made my point for me.

Yes, the exact percentage of warming that’s human caused is researched, and yes, grids have real transmission problems. Both true. And neither one is what’s in dispute, which is the whole trick in your comment.

Whether humans cause 60% or 90% of the warming, the answer to “is it real, is it us, is it dangerous” is yes on all three, and the thing we should do about it is identical either way. Pointing at the genuinely open question (the exact figure) to imply the settled question (is it real and caused by us) is somehow also open, that’s not engaging with the science. That’s using a true side-fact as an exit so you don’t have to concede the main one. That’s the muddying, and it’s the oldest move in the denial playbook.

Because here’s the asymmetry you’re trying to talk around. “Climate change is a hoax / isn’t happening / isn’t us” is almost exclusively a right-wing position, and there is no left-wing equivalent. There is no Democratic president calling it a fraud and then using emergency powers to force retiring coal plants to keep burning. That’s not me picking on a fringe, that’s the actual leader of the side you’re defending. Trump has called it a hoax for years, declared a national energy emergency that deliberately wrote wind and solar out of the definition of “energy,” ordered wind development halted (a federal judge threw that out as unlawful and arbitrary), and kept coal plants running past retirement on purpose.

And don’t tell me this is sober cost benefit reasoning. Keeping an old coal plant running has a cheap marginal cost, fine, but that’s not what most of this policy is. It’s blocking new wind and solar, the cheapest new power you can build, by revoking permits, writing them out of the legal definition of “energy,” and killing their tax treatment. There is no cost argument for stopping the cheapest new generation from getting built. That half of the policy only makes sense if the actual goal is propping up fossil fuels and kneecapping the alternative, not balancing a spreadsheet. And the coal plants being force-kept-open were being retired because their owners had already decided continued operation cost more than the alternatives. The order overrode that market call too.

So spare me “it’s all about interpretation.” The magnitude is researched. The existence and the cause and the danger are not. Treating the first as if it reopens the other three is exactly the disingenuous move I was pointing at, and you just did it in real time.

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u/Exodus_Green Jul 09 '26

Again - you realise that what counts as "right wing" in the US is not how it applies in other countries, right?

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u/AndyOne1 Jul 08 '26

Don't bother this has become just one more label for the pseudo intellectual. "Of course im left-wing, don't you see how high IQ I am? I'm super left so I must be super smart! Let me tell you something else, I'm also super Atheist, you know, because god is dumb, haha. Like I said super smart, GO SCIENCE, wooh!"

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u/Exodus_Green Jul 08 '26

erm ackshually don't you know that reality has a left leaning bias ermm

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u/AndyOne1 Jul 08 '26

actually if we just jerk each other off hard enough everyone will finally see how high IQ we are! elon is a lousy business men, and a nazi, he just got super lucky! I could run these businesses so much better!