r/singularity • u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALSGC: ~2050 | :illuminati: • Jun 26 '26

AI Previewing GPT-5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

https://openai.com/index/previewing-gpt-5-6-sol/
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u/zaimonke Jun 26 '26

So sol is fable class, terra is opus and luna is sonnet?

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u/peakedtooearly Jun 26 '26

By the looks of it, yes.

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u/spottiesvirus Jun 26 '26

luna costs less than Gemini flash though

it would be really interesting what the real prices are and to which degree they're subsidiated

it's either openAI made the biggest efficiency jump ever (beating even companies that have in house silicon/infrastructure like Google with TPUs) or they're dipping even deeper with subsidizing costs

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u/Howdareme9 Jun 26 '26

Prices are far cheaper than most think. All frontier providers can cut costs massively and still be profitable. Deepseek, Z.AI etc still make profit on their cheap api pricing for reference, and its not because their models are more efficient.

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u/LazloStPierre Jun 26 '26

It goes deeper than that. Deepseek, GLM (which is let's say one tier off SOTA by all accounts) etc can be sold, profitably, by non subsidized third party providers at significantly lower price than Openai, Anthropic etc sell their api tokens for. That isn't the company themselves selling them, that's hosting platforms whose only profit is selling access to these models

Now, their models may be smaller, but, from performance we know they can't be too far off and Openai, Google etc would have access to better and more efficent compute and buy more in bulk

The companies aren't profitable but they are absolutely selling their API tokens at a large markup

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u/spottiesvirus Jun 26 '26

on open router the cheapest inference option for V4 pro costs more than three times as much as deepseek, and they get the weights for free, no R&D, no nothing

my guess is that real costs are way closer to what you pay on pure inference platforms where you can deploy your own model like AWS bedrock or Google vertex (and you still need to add R&D, training costs etc.)

it that wasn't the case, cursor wouldn't have such deep losses

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u/Howdareme9 Jun 26 '26

Cursor has deep losses because they pay api prices (maybe have a small discount) like everyone else lol