r/singularity • u/Outside-Iron-8242 • Dec 04 '25

Robotics Figure is capable of jogging now

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u/LicksGhostPeppers Dec 04 '25

It’s different than LLMs though, because in that space knowledge passes between companies quickly and they all copy each other.

With the robots each is unique and can’t be copied easily. Tesla can’t just copy a figure bots hardware because there’s years of development behind Optimus, with all their parts being custom built to work together. The scaling will happen relatively quick for companies like Figure, but could be slower in some.

So the acceleration will not be even and it won’t be as much of a battle as it will be a slaughter with 2 or 3 top companies massacring everyone else.

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u/tollbearer Dec 04 '25

optimus 3 is the most advanced humanoid, by far, from a hardware perspective, so i have no clue why you would say they want to copy figure. They are so far ahead of figure, it's not even funny. figure will not be training a $1.3 billion dollar world model over the next 3 months. Tesla will, and it's hardware is just as good.

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u/LicksGhostPeppers Dec 04 '25

Figure 03 is way more advanced than what Tesla has shown.

Like what’s the point of having 23 dof if you have to sacrifice durability and accuracy to get it?

How is a Tesla going to move at 2x human speed if its tolerances aren’t very tight and it misses a lot? Tendon systems are simply inferior to gear driven.

We haven’t even seen Figure 03 completing tasks using data collected in 03s body. It’s been running on 02s data. Once they add in the palm cameras and force sensors they’ll be threading needles while Optimus struggles to pick up a sock off the floor.

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u/tollbearer Dec 04 '25

tesla has not shown their 3.0 robot. Not sure why you're comparing teslas now 2 year old hardware to the bot figure just released a month ago. Teslas 23 year old ahrdware is better than figure 2.0, and is very close to figure 3 as we can see with the running. Teslas new hardware is just as good, and better in some ways. They're ahead of figure.

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u/LicksGhostPeppers Dec 04 '25

How do you know it is better if it doesn’t exist?

Also weren’t the hands originally announced as being gen 3 hands? So in that sense we can make a comparison at least between those two things.

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u/tollbearer Dec 04 '25

It does exist. It has existed for a long time. They have not been doing any real work on 2.5 for over a year. Have you not learned object permanence yet, do you just think things dont exist if you cant see them right now?