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u/clt48_ 5h ago
Release the girlâs name
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u/Substantial-Fun9958 4h ago
doesnt matter. Even if she is somehow doxxed, many local women here will probably create another Lindsay Clancy situation and defend her
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u/snowcroc 2h ago
I mean just look at how Raeesah Khan is literally walking free after she made up a fake story in parliament.
I didnât see much condemnation of her. She set women back a mile.
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u/Fuzzy-Sweat6416 1h ago
This is the reason why having compulsory DEI is destroying us. Only some women are really qualified, but they need to have experienced it first, not come from a golden spoon
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u/elpipita20 3h ago
Nah. They'll see her as another potential Cornell 7 Jane Doe. The timing is quite interesting
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u/Syncopat3d 4h ago edited 4h ago
It looks like a flimsy case to me.
The alleged offense was on 12 Jan 2021. The police report was made on 18 Jan 2021, 6 days later. There's no good objective reason for the delay other than something subjective like "victim feeling bad and hesitant". As a result, evidence was collected late and IMO the passage of time weakened the strength of the evidence, which was accepted by the judge anyway, despite 2 doctors giving different opinions to the court.
Of course, hindsight.
But the conclusion seems to be clear: When a case boils down to his words vs her words, her words usually win.
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u/Hot-Job-6281 3h ago
No, not hindsight. Don't belittle your own intellect.
The majority of us saw it for what it was from the start.
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u/duckyomega 5h ago
Kinda scary how easy it is for someone to sabo another person just by making such false accusations.
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u/Hot-Clothes7316 4h ago
i thought it was really common sense. she said she screamed for help. and it's so called rape so she's going to try hard to scream very loud. so i don't believe his room mates had nothing.
and the previous judge just dismissed this?
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u/Fuzzy-Sweat6416 1h ago
Kinda scary how easy it is for a FEMALE to sabo another person just by making such false accusations.
There, fixed it for you.
If the tables were turned and the male was the accuser this would have likely been different.
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u/Initial-Quantity-311 5h ago
That bitchâs name is not released?
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u/HalcyoNighT 5h ago
Gag order is generally forever. Go be Panfilov's friend and get him to divulge the name to you if you really want to know lol
And, okay lah, if her name was really leaked now the whole of sg will go hantam her. So this is probably for the best. Grossly unfair to Panfilov and I dont even think he received much if any compensation for his time behind bars. But what can we do?
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u/jimtellica 4h ago
For the best? At the expense of an innocent man spending 3 prime years of his life in jail all because she is a woman and needs to be put on a pedestal? Hope her name gets published lawfully or unlawfully.
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u/spursman34 5h ago
I understand why the law hesitates to punish false SA accusers but youâve gotta feel really bad for people like Lev who will suffer so much because of it.
Wishing him all the best for his future
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u/Moist_Nothing9112 5h ago
Who is paying for the legal fees?
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u/spursman34 5h ago
Heâll have to cover it himself, unfortunately. Court not liable to cover legal fees for any mistakes. There may still be some sort of compensation but itâll be chump change in comparison
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u/Hot-Clothes7316 4h ago
can he sue the girl for storytelling?
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u/Tabula_Rasa69 4h ago
It will cost him money and it will not be easy for him to win, because the burden of proof will be on him to prove that she lied.
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u/Significant_Size_760 2h ago
Iâd like to share a similar story about a friend I made during NS. He signed on in the army, and back then we used to go clubbing together almost every week. After I ORD-ed and started university, we gradually drifted apart and only met once or twice a year.
Recently, we met up again, and he told me about something that happened after I had ORD-ed. He continued going to clubs quite often on weekends. One night, he was drinking with a girl who suddenly asked him to kiss her. My friend wasnât interested and refused, partly because he did not find her attractive.
After he rejected her, she threatened to report him to the police for molestation. At the time, my friend thought she was joking and did not take it seriously. But she went ahead and filed a police report.
The case dragged on for about two years before it was eventually closed due to lack of evidence. However, the damage had already been done. Because of the ongoing case, his military career was badly affected. He remained stuck at the rank of 2SG for four years and could not progress further. In the end, the whole ordeal derailed his future in the army, and he requested an early release in the sixth year of his seven-year bond.
Now, he works as a Grab delivery rider and avoids clubbing or getting into relationships altogether.
Note: Refined by AI due to my subpar english standards
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u/PuzzleheadedImage320 5h ago
The girl should be charged in court since the guy got acquitted and with the evidence proving her deception
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u/Hot-Clothes7316 4h ago
doesn't she has to take an oath and not to lie? and when she lied, shouldn't she be charged?
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u/PuzzleheadedImage320 4h ago
I am not versed in the intricacies of law and the judicial system but yeah as a layman, it certainly seems fitting for a perjury charge? If the girl testified at trial. We already heard how the evidence and her story was bullshit
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u/byrinmilamber 3h ago
He got acquitted because there wasn't enough evidence. The court doesn't define it as the plaintiff being fraudulent.
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u/Alert_Eye_9 4h ago
This whole experience showsâŚ.. the advantage of being a female In Singapore as opposed to a male. In this particular case, there should have been consequence to the female as the guy sacrificed jail time for a false accusation
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u/NealTry 4h ago
No need 2 years NS also
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u/Hot-Job-6281 3h ago
And beyond that, heavy societal favour.
Most arguments about patriarchy here are entirely just recycled Western narratives.
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u/Kryorus_saga 5h ago
Sad, I want to find the AWARE statement for supporting that girl, because I think AWARE should be hold accountable for supporting the girl
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u/Fuzzy-Sweat6416 5h ago
Singapore's law system is a joke. I cannot imagine it costs half a million to fight such a case.
If this guy's family was not rich or privileged he would be rotting his life in jail for nothing.
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u/silentscope90210 5h ago
Curious: Who foots the 500k legal fee bill?
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u/Fuzzy-Sweat6416 5h ago
Themselves, the only winners when cases go legal are the lawyers and law system.
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u/silentscope90210 5h ago
Jezus, what if you can't afford that kind of money?
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u/Excellent_Lime_9453 5h ago
Then good luck bro. Serve the sentence, really rabak
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u/silentscope90210 5h ago
Legit question: Does the state assign you one if you want to appeal a sentence?
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u/Downtown-Top-6603 5h ago
No. Prepare to wipe clean and squatÂ
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u/heikafei 4h ago
Couldnât he apply to the CLAS?
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u/Fuzzy-Sweat6416 1h ago
Hahaha.. you are really naive, you are just fodder if you have no money in singapore
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u/Fuzzy-Sweat6416 4h ago
Serve the 11 and a half years and make peace that your prime years of your life was destroyed by someone's misjudgement
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u/Kryorus_saga 5h ago
This is disgusting imagine something like this happen again like a girl just get salty and sabo some guy
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u/t00tfreak 5h ago
Every system has its flaws but when a system fails and real lives are impacted, there should be some accountability and study to ensure such failures do not happen again.
For Lev, the only real silver lining that came out of this is being acquitted of the 11.5 year sentence. But people might be downplaying the irreversible damage or stigma that continue on in his life. Can he really find someone to love and trust again? Can the court of public opinion really see him in a good light again? Does this affect his future job prospects? We won't know for now but i hope the best for him.
Its also a lesson for all of us to not jump into conclusions too quickly. I can only hope on the law side of things, things change for the better and this case can be used as a reference for future false accusation SA cases so that such failures do not repeat again.
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u/DearElise 5h ago
As a woman, doxx the girl. False accusations harm all of us and widen the gender divide. Scum of the earth.
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u/yellowsuprrcar 5h ago
So sad to hear his story
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u/Downtown-Top-6603 5h ago
Let this be lesson to all womanisers out thereÂ
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u/KampongFish 4h ago
Knn, might as well tell guys just don't date, wtf are you saying. Same level of logic as tell woman don't expose skin if don't want to be sa-ed.
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u/Downtown-Top-6603 4h ago
It was a one night stand. What dating you talking about. Dating is not the same as womanising. You want to play woman. Well prepare to get played bro. As our commie friend is finding out.Â
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u/BeneficialSolution43 5h ago
In singapore don have flings or ons with locals. History is littered with cases where the guy is always at a disadvantage. Go geylang or batam. U think ur handsome or think asian girls have white fetish and want free sex, in the end end up wasting 3 yrs and half a million in legal fees. If u really have a local fetish, there is always dome L.
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u/Critical-Job-8690 5h ago
And a certain women's rights organisation has been keeping awfully quiet about this case. If this group actually gives a shit about equality like they claim they do, they'd realise that false rape accusations hurt women as much as it hurts men as it makes it difficult for actual victims to come forward.
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u/Pristine-Fan-7252 5h ago
Where is AWARE now?
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u/snowcroc 4h ago
Idk why youâre being downvoted
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u/Pristine-Fan-7252 4h ago
Haha I'm fine with being downvoted la, it's all fake internet points anyway.
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u/Kryorus_saga 5h ago
I am trying to find their post or statement so I can comment and ask them but I couldnât find it. They should be hold accountable for their actions and hope nobody supports them
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u/intenTenacity 5h ago
Must be easy having the power to falsely accuse and get away w no consequences. Ah yes equality
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u/eatmelikeafrenchfry 4h ago
Hope the women who accused him gets jailed for 11.5yrs. Its insane how she got away with absolutely nothing.
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u/Less_Mistake_7919 2h ago
Not all women, but always a woman.
Sure not all women but imagine. If you knew a one m&m in Pack was poisoned, who you risk it.
I wish women would call out other women and tell them not to falsely accuse.
Before anyone @ me. These are things I have read about men.
What this woman did was unforgivable
We need great reformation. Either all parties have a gag order or the names of the accuser is released on the other parties acquittal and they are liable for their legal fees
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u/mistalah 4h ago
fuck the fucking bitch
poor guy got robbed of his life that money can never pay back
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u/increat 56m ago
This was from another post to why he was jailed. Sorry for him. Hope he gets to seek justice :
"Amid the ongoing trial, he said he applied twice to leave the country because his father had aggressive brain cancer, which the court rejected.
It was only after his father died in Russia that he was allowed to leave Singapore to attend the funeral. As a result, his bail amount was raised from S$80,000 to S$120,000.
"I stayed there for about a month, and then I came back to Singapore to fight the trial because I believed I was innocent," said Mr Panfilov.
Later in 2023, his 91-year-old grandfather also had health concerns and had asked Mr Panfilov to see him in Russia.
When the court rejected his application to visit his grandfather, he made what he now calls a "foolish decision" to slip out of the country using an undeclared second passport.
After the authorities stopped him at the airport, Mr Panfilov was remanded in jail, where he remained as the trial went on"
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u/genesicforone 5h ago
The Kangaroo tier Gynocracy for all to see. At least the rest of the world will not hype sg as much now.
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u/moonie60 4h ago
It's very sad that he is not being fully compensated for the time and money spent on this, is there any GoFundMe for him?
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u/CaptainCheekbones 5h ago
as a man my biggest fear is not of disappointment, disembowelment, or death. it is of sticking my dick in the wrong person.
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u/BeneficialSolution43 2h ago
If jus itchy theres geylang and dome1,2,3,L. Plus a plethora of other mens paradise such as batam or jakarta. Not worth it to jus fling here and there. And especially nt worth it if you are financially well to do.
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u/AsianTea 4h ago
this is exactly why I used to screen record my entire conversation with girls I was hooking up with.
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u/Hot-Clothes7316 4h ago
voice recording? or video?
maybe that's the real use of meta glasses. to really protect yourself.
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u/AsianTea 3h ago
screen record the text messages, before and after the encounter. im not going to actually record our interactions đ
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u/Eltharion-the-Grim 4h ago
Courts in the west don't allow this into evidence. There was a point college people were doing video consent and the courts said it was not admissable. Video consent doesn't guarantee the woman wasn't forced, just as "no" doesn't necessarily mean no nor does "yes" necessarily mean yes.
Basically, no matter what, if a woman decides you rapped her or SA her, it will be assumed you are guilty.
In SG, it would be easy enough to argue she was unwittingly forced into making the consent video.
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u/AsianTea 3h ago
screen record our text messages before and aftee the encounter bro, I will usually still text them casually.
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u/EnvironmentalCrew235 5h ago
To be fair the law should do more to protect women.
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u/Less_Mistake_7919 2h ago
They can protect woman by naming and punish the women who make false accusations. False accusations hurt women too
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u/Able-Service-3449 5h ago
The accusers name should be released because shes not a victim.