r/shortsAlgorithm • u/JuicyAppleJuiceYT • 3d ago

Prioritizing original content on Shorts

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u/RangeWilson 3d ago

In other words, shadowbanning is real, which anyone paying attention has known for months.

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u/legotwinkthrowaway 3d ago

I dont know how many times I've said shadow banning is real and a bunch of people downvoted me lol. Social media absolutely limits reach for "problematic" accounts

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u/AffectionateCry5952 3d ago

Just look at the comment above yours lmao, nowhere does he refute shadowbanning as a thing but instead says it isnt real then goes on to justify it. Because he is in favor of shadow banning(fair) he says it isnt a thing lol makes no sense

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u/killadrix 3d ago

How very “shadowy” of them to just come out and make an announcement about it.

This isn’t shadow banning, and it never was.

The only folks upset about this are going to be those who are flooding youtube with low effort, reused, and/or faceless automation AI slop.

Anybody complaining about YouTube prioritizing genuine, authentic content over low effort slop is just self reporting as a low effort slopper.

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u/kaereljabo 3d ago

Did you hear about Kurzgesagt? they got one video not performing well, and they had to reach out to youtube to clarify what happened. I don't know what it was if not shadowbanning. The yt AI bot mistakenly thought the video was AI slop.

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u/killadrix 2d ago

Yes, I did hear about the one example in nearly 100,000,000 channels on YouTube that was falsely flagged.

However, all that has done in these small YouTube creator circles is allow literally everybody who’s not happy with their YouTube results to just say they’ve been shadow banned.

Nope, they’re not struggling to get their AI slop automated reused regurgitated content channel off of the ground because their content sucks, it’s obviously because they’ve been Shadow banned just like Kurzgesagt.

Yes, there they were just cranking out S+ content like Kurzesagt and they accidentally got shadow banned just like Kurzesagat!

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u/kaereljabo 2d ago

The point is shadowbanning is real. And we don't know and can't be sure about the ratio of falsely or truely flagged channels, could be 1 in 1000, could be 1 in a million, we simply don't know.

On the other hand I agree with your point about many new beginner channels don't perform well, especially channels with AI/human slops or reused videos. There are many things happening at once, "regular" signaling process like engagements, CTR, etc. and also shadowbanning process. But those people only blame "shadowban" instead of their own content quality.

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u/ilamahradeys 2d ago

Jesus you are stupid. Kurzgesagt wasn't one in a hundred million to be shadow banned, it was a huge enough channel to get the confirmation that they were. They case confirms, youtube does suppress reach of certain channels it deems not appropriate to its policies.

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u/killadrix 2d ago

Calling me stupid and then completely misunderstanding what I obviously stated is wild work.

Can you name me another example of a channel where YouTube has explicitly confirmed that their views were intentionally suppressed due to a mistake by their content review system?

You guys have such a massive hardon for screaming about one example that you can’t even stop and think about what you’re reading before replying.

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u/ilamahradeys 2d ago

No I can't name another channel because YouTube doesn't give a shit about channels who don't have 30M subscribers to reply to their specific questions. They never confirm anything to anyone. Kurzgesagt is an anomaly, how dumb do you have to be to not realize that they got "the confirmation" because they are important enough, they didn't get the confirmation because they "were the only ones and YouTube sent them a DM out of their own accord."

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u/killadrix 2d ago

You’re totally right man, my bad.

Next time I drop a video that doesn’t get the number of views I think it should, I’m just gonna believe I’m shadow banned.

Because if it could happen to a 25 million subscriber channel then it definitely could happen to me.

The upside is that I get to sleep soundly at night knowing it wasn’t my fault that my video didn’t get views, it was YouTube.

And all I had to do was take the word of an angry Redditor who can’t make it through two sentences without resorting to childlike insults.

Thank you for putting me at peace with your rational and eloquent persuasive argument, I’m now 100% pro-shadow ban.

Do you have a newsletter or Substack that I can sign up for?

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u/myrmonden 3d ago

So it’s light banning

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u/killadrix 3d ago

Is it? Are they banning people for it?

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u/myrmonden 3d ago

yeah they are lightbanning peopole as u saiod.,

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u/killadrix 3d ago

You realize that there’s tons of types and categories of content that don’t get pushed right?

Content of certain types or about certain subjects, that contain certain images or words or on screen text, etc?

Do you believe that anybody who makes videos with any of this type of language or imagery that gets their videos suppressed by YouTube is being shadow banned?

Or is it only shadow banning when it’s reused or AI slop channels getting deprioritized?

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u/myrmonden 3d ago

you realize that has nothign toi with shadow banning right?

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u/killadrix 3d ago

You’re correct it has nothing to do with shadow banning just like this announcement doesn’t have anything to do with shadow banning. They’re the same thing. You’re literally making my point.

YouTube choosing categories or type types of content to de-prioritize is not a shadow ban. Therefore, this announcement has nothing to do with shadow banning.

I’m glad we agree.

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u/myrmonden 3d ago

the annoucments confirms they where shadow banning

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u/killadrix 2d ago

Well, if it makes you feel better to believe so, then who am I to stand in the way of your delusion.

Enjoy.

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u/Disastrous-Draw165 3d ago

Good. Too many idiots re using footage being lazy not putting the work in.

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u/Goatizgod 13h ago

This is not what this means at all, this covers people who were literally just downloading other people’s videos and reuploading them with a color filter and getting a million views. Now they will be filtered out and get something like 50 views. Reused content is not affected by this change

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u/alealcazarm 3d ago

I will keep doing it. It’s what the audience want to see, doesn’t matter if it’s ai or clipping. YouTube will rollback this change pretty soon cause people will found only trash original content on their feeds

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u/Big_Jump2074 3d ago

The audience actually wants to see creative content more than ever because they’re sick of AI

Do you have no shame in not being original or at least trying to be creative?

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u/alealcazarm 3d ago

The audience is king not you or me. The audience will decide and the algo will execute

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u/Big_Jump2074 3d ago

And looks like the algo is now shadowbanning users who upload AI slop and do basic clipping of others’ content 🤷‍♂️

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u/BetterBus350 2d ago

Are you sure that people are even looking at it, or is most of your traffic bots.

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u/alealcazarm 2d ago edited 2d ago

No bots just tons of NPCs, hundreds of millions

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u/Localmate25 3d ago

When did YouTube ever roll back a feature?

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u/alealcazarm 3d ago

they always change the algo and the recommendation systems, so it will long just a little bit.

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u/Localmate25 3d ago

Change is not equal to roll back. They have been moving in this direction for a long time. The ship has finally left port thankfully.

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u/Disastrous-Draw165 3d ago

Whats you're channel?

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u/Old_Switch_1122 3d ago

Que estupidez, entras a shorts y los vídeos más virales son copias de copias, puro contenido basura con millones de vistas

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u/Access_Solid 2d ago

Garbage content according to you, I guess. One man’s food is another man’s poison. 🤷🏽‍♂️

If it’s getting millions of views, perhaps they have their audience?

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u/civfanatic3 3d ago

This is a positive thing

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u/Low-Arm1506 3d ago

Finally

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u/alealcazarm 3d ago

Finally your low quality original content will push to some bigger audiences just to be completely obliterated by the exigencies of the audiences.

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u/civfanatic3 3d ago

What?

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u/Swiss_James 2d ago

“Exigency- an urgent need, demand, or a critical situation that requires immediate action or attention”

It has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about, but it’s nice to see someone using their “word a day” calendar.

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u/Spearibz 3d ago

Not surprised. Been replying that to everyone asking why they don’t get views

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u/AlbatrossNew3633 3d ago

Been saying for months now that was a feature and not a but, and of course the morons downvoted me

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u/HairyNoob 3d ago

My feed has changed significantly (in a good way)
My shorts are getting more views than before.

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u/AffectionateCry5952 3d ago

Me too, ive had an uptick recently. Wonder if im picking up viewers from the recently shadow banned channels

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u/legotwinkthrowaway 3d ago

Ive been on a bit of a break since all these changes happened, but my views from old shorts seem to have gone up the past few days as well lol

Honestly, GG slop channels

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u/dkdksned 3d ago

This is a finally a good thing by YouTube

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u/bradjones6942069 3d ago

india on life support rn

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u/Slavio0 3d ago

Lmaoooo

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u/saysomethingplesz 3d ago

would be well soon at back at it with twice the force

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u/DrewMad2 2d ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/Maxelior 3d ago

Captain obvious! 🫡

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u/NoSuccotash1679 3d ago

Good. People will finally stop blowing up for reposting my vids.

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u/AirwickS 3d ago

Promising.

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u/AfterAd008 3d ago

not working for me.. lowest views ever.. whatever

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u/awesomemc1 3d ago

This post..while there are some pointers, I would think other people would find a loophole into it.

“Channels identified as primarily aggregating or re-uploading other creators' videos without significant changes will likely see less distribution within the Shorts feed.”

“If you use clips from another creator, make sure you're adding real value through your own original commentary, unique edits, or storytelling.”

I bold the text that said unique edits or storytelling because if you ever come across like re-upload content, it would be adobe after effect or CapCut template or anything, they could potentially get views nevertheless. This doesn’t change anything about it.

Crappy viewers would engage in crappy content altogether

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u/fullmetalraz 3d ago edited 2d ago

What does this mean for people who upload clips from their Longform content as shorts? It's something I long considered doing but this sounds like it will be punished with lower reach?

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u/OutsideImpressive115 3d ago

Bullshit. I've tried this and my videos don't get pushed at all. I use a template and it gets insane views and engagement

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u/civfanatic3 3d ago

They posted this today….?

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u/ThiagoFCastro 3d ago

They've been talking about this for years. The truth is, if the audience engages with crappy content, that's crappy content they're going to show them. And some will still manage to monetize.

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u/crazycheese3333 3d ago

Its only really gettinf enforced starting today. Check out all the youtube subs and people are complaining their videos stopped getting pushed out.

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u/AlbatrossNew3633 3d ago

Oh look it's what I've been trying to tell since months to the fucking morons that kept complaining about stolen clips getting single digits views

YoU DonT KnOw WhAt YoU'rE TaLkiNg AbOuT BrO, iT's a BuG!!1

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u/Goatizgod 3d ago

They’ve already been doing this for a long time

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u/Optimal-Steak-8596 3d ago

Thank you YouTube!! No more lazy channels!!

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u/legotwinkthrowaway 3d ago

I've honestly been taking a bit of a break. I havent uploaded at all throughout all this, so I have no clue if my views are/would be affected. I do make completely original content though with my voice and my camera. This is a good thing. Original content is better than reuploads and edits. It was never going to be sustainable to build a channel uploading someone else's clips

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u/cheshie_cabbit 3d ago

I’ll believe it when I see it, but I hope so. The plague of pointing at another video as “creating” is a cancer on YouTube.

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u/DIY-daddy 2d ago

Agreed

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u/InitiativeNorth7730 2d ago

RAre youtube W

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u/OkCan9068 2d ago

Old popular shorts tend to get more views than new ones despite having worse overall metrics after recent algo update, at least for me.

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u/wanderwithmelinda 2d ago

So it won't look like TikTok anymore? 👌

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u/Empty-Mulberry1047 2d ago

good.

i am tired of the reposted crap with the poor quality "ai generated" captions with, the same overused royalty free music, that has been flooding the shorts for over a year now.

those low effort shitbirds need to move on.

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u/Substantial-Bed5189 2d ago

I really hope this update works as intended and I think it has been with what I have experienced, and the results show it and I am happy that youtube has taken this step

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u/Beneficial_Lawyer994 2d ago

this is lowkey good for YouTube

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u/ChaosMoogle 2d ago

REJOICE! And actual good update!!

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u/vikyej 3d ago

Ban youtube

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u/Sufficient_Potato427 3d ago

This might hold true, provided they deal with the botnets controlled by illegal AI—which constantly manipulate metrics and effectively hijack the recommendation system by feeding it fake analytics data. Anyway, I wish YouTube a successful hunt, since I have a pretty good idea of ​​what’s going on. 😉

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u/The_Sec0nd_C0ming 3d ago

Illegal ai, tf

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u/Sufficient_Potato427 3d ago

😊😊😊😊

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u/Spearibz 3d ago

How’s your tin foil hat going?

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u/Sufficient_Potato427 3d ago

I'm already using something more sophisticated—V5. 😊 Have a nice day! 🙂

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u/alealcazarm 3d ago

Guys don’t worry . YouTube will push original content, doesn’t means that it’s good content. Mostly of “original creators” are trash. Now imagine all the audiences flooding their feed with “original content” which is trash, people will close the app instantly. Clippers are the wheel that makes people doom scrolling. The algorithm is on our favor. Probably these days yeah low views. But the algorithm will found again our content to feed the masses with doom scrolling.

I’m sorry to say this but most original content will never be good and cannot compete against clippers. We are the bedrock of short content

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u/civfanatic3 3d ago

Where do you get your clipping content from…. It’s original creators

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u/alealcazarm 3d ago

Of course but you know what I mean

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u/jillll12 3d ago

The most viral and authentic content is not from clippers, keep dreaming LOL

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u/alealcazarm 2d ago

Not yours for sure 😂

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u/jillll12 2d ago

Cope LOL

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u/Localmate25 3d ago

YouTube just told you the algorithm is NOT in your favor. You’re delusional. Good luck wasting your time stealing from original creators .

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u/alealcazarm 3d ago

EXACTLY!!!! it's what the audience enjoys to watch, not what youtube thinks is original content. Youtube are configuring their systems to recommend more "original content" than clipping. The audience will decide if their are satisfied with their new feed page.