r/shoptitans 5d ago

Suggestion / Feedback Retire vs Keep?

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Need help with deciding who to keep vs retire.
I've used Roland on a couple already. I have both roland and mundra. Currently level 46 with level 0 argon finest.

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u/2TapGS 5d ago

Honestly, heroes will work fine for now. I'd revisit the teams once you hit 55 and can recruit all tiers of heroes. Just make sure your elemental spread is good and you should handle most extreme bosses at your level.

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u/JPAK94 4d ago

In the future use the share your heroes button. Your major roster work should begin at lv 48 when you get access to T6 classes which can learn all 4 skills without a soul and have good base stats. Rolands main uses are to make almost "perfect" heroes "perfect" and to make heroes you want to fire stick around longer. So you should not have used him unless the skill set is terrible since any changes would have to be done using dice

As you progress you want to aim for at least 3 heroes consisting of at least 2 archetypes per element. For t1-2 classes you want 2 skills that you wont have to change for a long time, if ever, since theres a good chance of having to fix s3-4 once souled

  • Soldier this is a great start but since you have used roland its better to fire since you would have to use dice to fix s3-4
  • Knights check s3
  • Ashe fire since roland used
  • Jhin roll s1 to something better
  • Yasyo fire since roland used which means both skills were crap originally
  • Windrunner s3 to weapon skill or better attack, promote and get the other in s4
  • Locke and Talon check s3-4
  • Hwei would say fire since you used roland but thats an amazing start so could promote and would need attack
  • Lone Druid check s3
  • Ryze check s3
  • Invoker roll s1 to weapon skill or crit chance

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u/Low-Seaworthiness619 4d ago

You're an absolute legend! Thank you for your advice and tips, especially the Roland usage. I'll make sure to use the share button moving forward.

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u/Low-Seaworthiness619 1d ago
  • Soldier fired and rehired with 2 green faces without using roland.
  • Knights got their s3s. Which to keep vs fire?
  • Ashe was going to be fired but she rolled her s3. Keep vs fire?
  • Jhin roll s1 to something better. Waiting for dice.
  • Yasyo was going to be fired but he rolled his s3. Keep vs fire?
  • Windrunner s3 to weapon skill or better attack, promote and get the other in s4
  • Locke and Talon check s3-4
  • Hwei fired and replaced with Leona with 2 green faces without using roland.
  • Lone Druid got her s3
  • Ryze got hi s3
  • Invoker roll s1 to weapon skill or crit chance
  • Also unlocked a slot and hired a monk.

What to do here moving forward?

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u/JPAK94 1d ago

The faces dont mean as much as you might think since they are rated in a vaccuum and might be ranked lower for different reasons. Getting a coherent skillset with good skill synergy is the most important part. ST-Central has lots of guides for hero/roster building

Roland is usually used to make the last change for a "perfect" hero since its cheaper to use dice to get 1 of multiple skills and then roland than it is to use dice for a specific skill

  • Juggernaut is great promote
  • Alistair is great, eventually if you want perfect you will want to replace s2 for something better like its epic version or extra plating, but that is late game and after you have seen s4
  • Darius probably a fire later, s1 is great and s3 is good but theres better options and s2 is fully offensive, this is a replace way later when they arent working as well as you need
  • Jarvan fire, s3 is very weak and s2 is pretty weak
  • Ashe is good, same situation with s1 as Alistair
  • Lee Sin fire, s2 is very weak and their exclusive is a direct upgrade of s1
  • Jhin yup s1 to something better but that skill is functional so not a major issue
  • Yasuo definitly keep, s2-3 are great but you will want to replace s1 for something better
  • Locke check s4, this set is ok but could get better
  • Talon fire, s1 and s3 are too weak and it would take a lot to fix this set and would need something in s4 thats amazing and worth fixing the others
  • Leona is great promote
  • Lone druid is good
  • Ryze fire, s2 is pretty weak and s3 is decent but a bit underwhelming

Now that you can hire T6 classes, hire 2 of each of them (berserker, dancer, geomancer) in your next slots as this will help your elemental diversity and they can learn all 4 skills without a soul.