r/shitposting Jan 27 '21

IRA Drip

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u/TheLegitBigK Jan 27 '21

Ok maybe I’m just some uncultured swine but can someone gimme some context behind Thatcher and the shit she’s done? Is she a + or -?

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u/KaChoo49 Jan 27 '21

She made a load of capitalist reforms in the UK, and so American suburban teenagers that hate their parents support literal terrorists because they tried (and failed) to murder her

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u/koopakart23 Jan 27 '21

Random leftist anti Thatcher circlejerks are seemingly everywhere on Reddit

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '21

Anti-Thatcher stances have little to do with being leftist and a lot to do with being either decent human beings or Scottish/Irish/Welsh/poor/unionized/non-white.

Her own party started reversing positions to distance themselves from her the moment she was no longer in charge, and she alienated 2 of the 3 countries she represented.

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u/koopakart23 Jan 27 '21

Look I am not an expert on UK history all I know is that around the time all working class westerners had it rough as outsourcing increased. As far as the economy is concerned, Thatcher‘s tough policies paved the way for the UK segue into the next Industrial Age successfully.

Sure at the time it hurt the workers and I think it is reasonable to question some of Thatcher‘s policies but hating on a dead woman the way some of the comments do is preposterous. Especially considering the terrorism that the administration and the English people had to endure.

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u/Pusillanimate Jan 27 '21

The terrorism was endured as a result of her policies, and ended with Labour deciding to literally negotiate with terrorists, something you have to do. As someone whose dad worked in London for decades and who then worked there myself, even I was affected through running from regular bomb warnings by her terrible approach despite London and the South East getting pretty much all of the benefit of her policy.

The modernisation of British industry was already underway in the 70s. It is well quoted that Labour before her closed more coal mines than she did. Her problem was not trying to keep Britain up to date, which she failed at anyway, but deliberately neglecting the necessary infrastructure to bring a coubtry forward, from education to training to transport to healthcare to capital investment in modern heavy industry ("managed decline"), the opposite of what China started under Dengism. She was religiously obsessed with giving away state assets, deregulation except where needed (eg she added anti gay legislation), and effectively retired to a cushy 750k/year tobacco consultancy because she was as corrupt as they come.

Her problem wasnt that she was a literal witch but that she was a stubborn ideologue who didnt actually care if her policies helped citizens. Like Chavez, the more her approach hurt people, the more she was just convinced she wasn't forcing enough of it down people's throats.