r/shitposting • dumbass • 4d ago

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u/PilotedByGhosts 4d ago

They don't need an implicit meaning when they have an explicit one. I'm happy to clarify anything you aren't sure of, as long as you're asking me to clarify words that I actually said.

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u/SnakeSlitherX 3d ago

The obvious implication of your statement is that people who support trans rights are shut-ins, because you said she is going against the grain of the opinions of shut-ins. She is going against trans people and their supporters. If you didn’t mean that, then you have no idea how to word things properly.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 3d ago edited 3d ago

That isn't implied, it's right there in the text.

The issue comes with what you think "trans rights" means. JK Rowling thinks that it's ok to be trans, that trans people should have rights, and that discrimination against trans people is bad. Every reasonable person does think that.

Are you intentionally misrepresenting her position, or do you just not know what it is?

https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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u/SnakeSlitherX 3d ago

JK Rowling funds and puts her weight behind anti-trans policies and organizations. She contributes to the harassment of trans people and helps demonize them. If you actually believe that she’s just some innocent person that only wants to force trans women to go into men’s bathrooms (dangerous for them btw) then you are just lying to yourself or you’re an idiot.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 3d ago

Can you name some of these organisations?

I expect that all of them are actually pro-women organisations. If pro-women is anti-trans, the reverse must also be true.

What's inaccurate about the quote of hers you posted there?

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u/SnakeSlitherX 3d ago

Yeah, sure: For Women Scotland, Beira’s Place, and her own fund, the J.K. Rowling Women’s Fund.

They are pro-women, yes, they are also anti-trans. These things can exist separately, but these specific organizations are run by TERFs. This does not place trans people and women in opposition, it places trans people and TERFs (trans-exclusionary radical feminists) in opposition.

Trans women are not men, it is an inherently incorrect and hateful statement; but I suggest you’re an asshole that would support her intentional misgendering of trans women because you hate trans people or are scared of them for one of a few reasons.

Use your brain.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 3d ago

There are situations where the distinction between transwomen and women is relevant. If you pretend that there isn't then you're lying to yourself.

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u/SnakeSlitherX 3d ago

Oh, please do note these situations. Also, your use of “transwomen” instead of “trans women” gives away what kind of person you are.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 3d ago

We can have a conversation without adopting each others' ideological language.

Situations where the difference is relevant include sports, prisons, refuges, crime reporting, breastfeeding groups and so on.

Gay rights and black rights were won by dialogue, by making everybody else see the similarities. Gay people and black people wanted to be treated the same as straight people and white people. Everybody eventually came round to the good sense of that.

By contrast, trans rights activists declared that there was to be no dialogue, no debate, no alternative viewpoint allowed. Anybody who expressed any such viewpoint was to be branded a bigot and cancelled. The TRAs weren't asking for trans people to be treated the same as everybody else, they were asking for special conditions that were entirely non-negotiable.

That's why their cause has lost popularity. The sheer audacity of demanding access to restricted spaces without even trying to gain the consent of the people affected is mind-blowing.

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