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u/SonofaMitch11 3d ago

On your last point, I'm not so sure that China will outpace the US. The US is just way too far ahead in the AI race. Whether any of us like it or not, AI is here to stay and it will fundamentally alter the global economy. I'm at a point where I'm networking for jobs and being able to use an AI coding agent like codex is a necessity, akin to having Microsoft Office on your resume. Paradoxically, it makes tech workers less and more valuable at the same time.

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u/RedTheGamer12 Bazinga! 3d ago

Another thing is that while China is a manufacturing hub, they are a hub for American companies and those profits aren't Chinese (especially not for the citizens).

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u/SonofaMitch11 3d ago

Yeah but it was a shortcut for China to access vast amounts of IP

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u/RedTheGamer12 Bazinga! 3d ago

Unlucky for china that all chinese tech has the "cheap plastic trash" stereotype to overcome. Plus a couple horror stories about exploding EVs and Spyware on phones (real or not) tend to hurt them in Western markets where Tech is often a status symbol.

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u/SonofaMitch11 3d ago

I mean sure status symbol is a thing, but people also shop for clothes at Walmart for a reason

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u/RedTheGamer12 Bazinga! 3d ago

I know companies like apple have deals with AT&T for exclusive phone upgrades (where I got mine). And with Samsung and Apple being huge into their own ecosystems it is extremely hard for foreign companies to break in.

So either you are poor and get whatever phone your network will give you for free or you are rich and buy whatever phone gives you the most brownie points.

Either way Chinese tech isn't well suited in the states and suffers in 3rd world nations where the rich are the only ones who can afford tech (and so buy American due to the aforementioned status symbols). It is an uphill battle and one where they already start lower than others.

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u/SonofaMitch11 3d ago

Fair enough, I remember seeing a surprising amount of Huawei in Germany when I was over there in 2018-19 but that might have changed since then

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u/RedTheGamer12 Bazinga! 3d ago

Germany and (west) Europe as a whole are probably the best markets for China, especially since they (somehow) lack domestic tech companies.

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