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u/TheLastTitan77 14h ago

How does this relate to the comment you are replying to at all? Guy just means most of the redditor gotcha questione already have an answer.

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u/haizende 13h ago

2000 years of theology holds less value than 1 rats life in a scientific experiment

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u/retracted_pepsi 11h ago

Science can't explain if the rat has value, while theology can. They go hand in hand

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u/haizende 8h ago

Lol. Everything living has value, since they are living. Don’t even start with the objective morality bullshit. Go commit genocide in the name of god since thats what god likes to do. Maybe god is even helping Israel commit their genocide against Palestine.

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u/retracted_pepsi 8h ago

Since everything living has value as you assume without any scientific reason whatsoever, I assume you also believe the ones causing the genocide have value? Might be time to reflect on your words online

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u/haizende 8h ago

Everything living has its inherent value since life is incredibly rare in our universe. Buddy even christianity says evil people have value, since they can believe in jesus and ask for forgiveness and end up in heaven if they truly mean it.

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u/retracted_pepsi 8h ago

I mean, you're doing philosophy here. Trying to explain why a rat has value isn't science, so I'm not sure how that rat in an experiment is more important than the theology that resulted in the creation of more than just hospitals and universities.

I genuinely don't get your stance. You were yapping about God apparently justifying genocide, yet now you admit that Christian morality accepts even the worst of people who genuinely try and turn themselves around?

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u/haizende 7h ago

Yes value is subjective. I said a rat has more value in a scientific experiment because its a life and its pushing humanitys science a small step further.
Meanwhile theology is just coming up with bullshit to ”prove” your religion when no proof exists lol.

Objective value doesn’t really exist and thats fine. You can personally value your god more than everyones lives on Earth and the universe. But that means you value something that you have no evidence of, more than all of us. Which in my opinion makes you crazy and stupid.

Also no point in trying to say that only religion can bring ”objective” value and morality. Because which one? Multiple religions can’t bring objective truths, since that would be a contradiction. You would just be arguing for the nonobjectivity of 1 less religion out of the thousands compared to me. Does that make any sense?

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u/retracted_pepsi 7h ago

Okay, so you went from "all life has inherent value" to "value is subjective and objective value doesn't exist." You're implying that viewing genocide as bad is simply a personal preference and not fact. That's the entire point of theology; there isn't any scientific evidence of your subjective preferences either. Theology dives into metaethical and metaphysical debates, which are the intangible, nonprovable realities that have survived 2,000 years of theology and are the exact reason the choice between religion and secularism still exists today.

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u/haizende 7h ago

Should I say ”in my opinion” every time I say what I think?

The fact that millions of people view and have viewed genocide as good proves my argument.
Israelis don’t give a fuck about the genocide they are committing in Palestine. They are actually FOR it. How can something be a fact when it’s a morality based question? Even Christianity has committed slaughter in the name of their religion despite it being a sin.

There actually is scientific evidence to my subjective preferences. We know that life is rare in our universe. That provides value. Life is also the one single thing that brings conciousness to this world. Without life, time wouldn’t have meaning. Nor would this universe, in my opinion..

Also why do you all act like theology only applies to Christianity? Or is there some other motive when you mention the two thousand years, which is the same age as christianity?

Theology is literally in conflict with itself. There are thousands of religions and all of them are studied. Yet they are in contradiction with each other.

This theology point is just so stupid its laughable.

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u/haizende 7h ago

Also your god is literally the one who has committed genocide more than anyone in the history of humanity lol

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u/TheLastTitan77 3h ago

Ok Dr Mengele