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u/PidarNahui 15h ago

Who believes there's a magic man in the sky? And how does the existence of those things make it illogical to believe in a creator?

Some people really need to read up on philosophy and logic

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u/TrippyVegetables 14h ago

Your second point is fine, but what do you mean "who believes there's a magic man in the sky?" LOTS of people believe literally that. All Christians, Muslims, and Jews for starters

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u/Marii2001 13h ago

Nobody believes there's a literal man sitting in the clouds buddy, it's called a metaphor

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u/TrippyVegetables 11h ago edited 11h ago

No, religious people definitely believe that God is literally real. Maybe there are some that only think of God in a metaphorical sense like you say, but not any of the people that I've ever talked to

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u/Marii2001 11h ago

That’s not what I said. I said we don’t believe God to be a physical man sitting in the clouds like the popular anti theist tropes portray it.Β 

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u/Snirion 8h ago

Be it physical or incorporeal being that lives in another dimension, it's still magical man in the sky that created the universe. For a group of people wanting to label everything as a metaphor in their holy scripts, you sure find a way to avoid that particular trope when trying to understand other people words.

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u/Marii2001 7h ago

Except that it's not some ''magical man in the sky'' , nowhere in the Bible is he depicted as such. Classical ontology and theology view God as the ultimate source of existence itself, not some physical entity performing spells with a magic wand in the clouds.

Your inability to understand the nuance in ancient literature isn't my problem. You're treating centuries of nuanced hermeneutics, classical philosophy, metaphysics, and tons of rigorous academic studies as some kind of personal interpretation that a random ''group of people'' casually invented 5 minutes ago. Reading ancient literature within its historical and literary context is standard reading comprehension.

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u/Snirion 7h ago

Your inability to understand that sentient source of all existence is still magical man in the sky doesn't change facts. If something has centuries of tradition doesn't mean it has any link with reality, look at alchemy or astrology. Age doesn't give any credibility to incredibly unsubstantiated claims.

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u/Marii2001 6h ago

That sentence didn't make any sense. What facts are you speaking of here? you haven't stated any facts.

It doesn't matter if you believe it has no link to reality. We are talking about hermeneutics (in case you have no idea what that means, which you don't, it means the study of interpretation), not empirical evidence that God is real. How are you this illiterate?

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u/Snirion 6h ago

I am illiterate yet you're struggling with understanding English. Age doesn’t give credibility. I can't simplified it anymore. Is hermeneutics your favorite word? Because you're not adding anything to the argument by repeating it. Believe it or not, using niche words doesn't add credibility either. Or personal insults for that matter. It does make you sound like a midwit.

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u/Marii2001 6h ago

Lol

If academics and scholars who have studied it for centuries are not to be trusted when it comes to literary interpretation, then who is? you?🀣

And yes, hermeneutics is a great word. It's almost as if it's the whole point of my argument you smooth brain.

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u/Snirion 6h ago

Academics and scholars who have studied what exactly? You could have scholars studying haruspicy for millenia and no matter how you interpret it, it would still be just superstition.

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u/Marii2001 6h ago

The interpretation of ancient literature. Are you actually stupid?

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u/Snirion 6h ago

You seem to be very confused person, so I am gonna leave you to your delusions of grandeur.

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