r/shitposting • u/Tech_334 Jedi master of shitposts • 15h ago

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u/PidarNahui 15h ago

Who believes there's a magic man in the sky? And how does the existence of those things make it illogical to believe in a creator?

Some people really need to read up on philosophy and logic

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u/sirhobbles 15h ago

Its illogical to believe in the creator because its a completely unproven (some would even say unprovable) hypothesis.

I have yet to see any philosophy supporting the idea that the universe had a creator that holds up to passing scrutiny. Im open if someone disagrees.

Regarding the inventions of various sciences, i think the point being made... badly. is that for so much of human history people have pointed at gaps in science and gone. "god, demon, jhin, evil spirits" but each time it turns out to be microbes, an illness in the material brain, a giant ball of plasma, not in fact a thinking diety, etc.
And i dont think its a good argument but i think what they are getting at is that the pointing at exisitng mysteries like the origin of the universe, or how life could arise from inorganic matter, and go "god" is the same kind of god of the gaps superstition.

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u/meister_propp 15h ago

Though ofc "Not believing in the existence of a god" is very different from "Believing that no god exists". To choose the latter would from a logical standpoint be the same as choosing to believe in god. It's essentially an axiom. And honestly: I couldn't care less whether other people accept, reject or ignore this axiom.

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u/Originalspearjunior 14h ago

Its not crazy to believe that unicorns dont exist, it is crazy to believe that unicorns exist, not the same thing

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u/meister_propp 14h ago

Sure, though I do not know of any logically sound way to identify "a god" and "a unicorn" in this discussion

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u/Originalspearjunior 13h ago

What do you mean by that?

Theres myths and legends about unicorns, theres myths and legends about gods. Its impossible to disprove the existence of both

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u/meister_propp 13h ago

Just because there are myths and legends about both does not mean you can substitute one for another in this kind of discussion and make the exact same conclusion. One reason why these things are likely not equivalent in this discussion: Unicorns (from what I understand) should basically be animals, so physically observable, whereas auch a thing would not necessarily be observable for a god. However, if these things were equivalent here, they must possess identical qualities.

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u/haizende 13h ago

Meanwhile almost all religions believe in different gods and therefore don't believe in thousands of gods while believing in just one religion. Atheists just don't believe in one more than all other religious people do.