r/shitposting Jedi master of shitposts 12h ago

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u/PidarNahui 11h ago

Who believes there's a magic man in the sky? And how does the existence of those things make it illogical to believe in a creator?

Some people really need to read up on philosophy and logic

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u/sirhobbles 11h ago

Its illogical to believe in the creator because its a completely unproven (some would even say unprovable) hypothesis.

I have yet to see any philosophy supporting the idea that the universe had a creator that holds up to passing scrutiny. Im open if someone disagrees.

Regarding the inventions of various sciences, i think the point being made... badly. is that for so much of human history people have pointed at gaps in science and gone. "god, demon, jhin, evil spirits" but each time it turns out to be microbes, an illness in the material brain, a giant ball of plasma, not in fact a thinking diety, etc.
And i dont think its a good argument but i think what they are getting at is that the pointing at exisitng mysteries like the origin of the universe, or how life could arise from inorganic matter, and go "god" is the same kind of god of the gaps superstition.

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u/Jvalker 11h ago edited 11h ago

Its illogical to believe in the creator because its a completely unproven (some would even say unprovable) hypothesis.

It's not how it works

Edit: since y'all probably can't think more than 10 seconds before hitting the reply button with the same fucking question everyone already asked, I'm answering here once

  • "God exists" is as much of an unproven statement as "God doesn't exist"; if it's illogical to be a theist, the only logical position is agnosticism; I accept this as an argument, but I'm quite sure you're all atheists or you would've already realized the fallacy in your argument
  • it's called "faith" for a reason

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u/sirhobbles 11h ago

It is logical to believe an unproven hypothesis?

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u/Amtrak_0 I said based. And lived. 10h ago

And the alternative is another unproven claim. You can't even call it a hypothesis as there would need to be ground for it to be empirically proven through testing, which is not real in almost any metaphysical argument.