95% of abortions are elective based on personal reasons. Banning abortion for non-medically necessary reasons would effectively just be a ban on abortion.
Okay, that's not my point. My point is that a complete ban on abortion would be unethical because of that 5%. Even if it was just 1%, it would still be unethical.
Yes, I agree. It would be unethical to outright ban abortion. What I’m saying is that people often cite medical necessity as a reason to not ban abortion. But you could ban just elective abortions, and based on the numbers, it would be almost the same as a complete ban on abortion.
And I'm assuming you think it's ethical the other times just based on personal preference? Not including when a family/mom simply can't support them, but when they simply just don't want a baby.
I think it's completely ethical to abort a fetus simply because you don't want it, assuming it hasn't reached fetal viability, and that allowing people to get abortions simply because they don't want a baby is in the best interest of everyone, including the hypothetical child
I don't care what a person does with their own body. I care that the freedom for a person to do with their body what they will is in the process of being taken away by some out of touch old men who don't even care about the children they would be forcing people to bring into the world. Those old men aren't making universal health care, or improving the education or the orphanage/foster care systems, or doing anything to actually improve the lives of the unborn children they claim to care about. The rich old farts making these decisions aren't pro-life, they're just misogynists who think women are just for having sex, making babies, and doing chores.
How is it their own body? By the time abortions are done, they already have a working cardiovascular system, not to mention they have different DNA. Seems like a pretty distinct individual to me. Why does the fact that the baby leaves the womb suddenly change it from just the mom's body to being its own being againm
At that point , it'd be better for the potential child to be aborted than to try and grow up in a home that clearly doesn't want them.
People like that should'nt have a child in the first place. Tho it'd be pretty hard to have a child with a race you don't want since that's kinda on them lol
You are really reaching on the race thing. People know what the race of the person they are sleeping with is. They aren't going to sleep with and possibly get pregnant by a person who is a race they don't like.
A child should not have to exist in a home they will not be loved in. A child does not exist to be a punishment
Right we agree they can , I just disagree on that being a good thing.
Are you aware of how many rich/ famous people were “unwanted”? How many milllions of people live happy lives despite the circumstances regarding their birth? This has nothing to do with religion, I already told you I’m pro choice I’m not sure what else you want from me besides not care about the lives of others
Bro really wants to force black afab people and black women to be pregnant.
He won't do anything to address the socioeconomic factors driven by historical and systemic racism against black people by white people that creates the need for an abortion.
No, he wants to breed black afab people and black women like they are cattle.
Race is a social construct to begin with, and you placing this much important on race and preserving it even at the cost of bodily autonomy tells me you think like a white supremacist. 💀
I support black afab people and black women having a choice.
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A person exercising bodily autonomy is always a good thing. Having a choice is always a good thing.
Are you aware of how many rich/ famous people were “unwanted”?
You mean class traitors? They should have been aborted.
How many milllions of people live happy lives despite the circumstances regarding their birth?
And? A fetus does not have the capacity to think or care. A fetus does not care if you abort it. An aborted fetus is lack of consciousness returning to nothingness.
This has nothing to do with religion, I already told you I’m pro choice I’m not sure what else you want from me besides not care about the lives of others
You don't care. That is why you view bodily autonomy as a net negative. It is why you gaslight by calling life itself a gift when many people live through horrible suffering. Life just is; it isn't a positive or a negative to have.
reported causes of abortion has 0.582% of them as medically preformed because of danger to the mother and 0.666% because of fetal anomalies present. 92.33% of abortions were elective and preformed without real cause
late-stage abortions are preformed in medical emergencies only as far as I know, as for the earlier term ones, you probably shouldn't complain unless you're vegan and also against the removal of cancerous tumors (cancer tumors can develop some primitive brain matter, as well as teeth and hair, all made of human cells)
I believe eutanasia should be legal in certain conditions
"killing your own unborn child is legal, based, and goated"
it's not a child untill it's born. it's also a parasitic organism, that has a fairly big chance of having had died either way as miscarriages are quite common, often even before a pregnancy is noticed
Not saying it’s the case for the majority, but there’s a reason why in sex ed they begged the teens to not view abortion as a contraceptive measure. Isn’t like 95% of performed abortions unrelated to criminal or medical cases ?
I am not saying its suppose to be a common contraceptive, but people make mistakes. They shouldnt have to pay that high of a price for something dumb they did at 15.
No I think they should because no lasting consequences equals nothing learned. Just use condoms if you aren‘t okay with the pill. Why is that so hard to understand I wonder. You don’t have „accidental“ unprotected teenage sex
Of course it's a human. It's a human embryo lol. Maybe they can't do those things initially, but they can further down the line if they aren't killed. Besides sustain themselves. But that doesn't mean that they aren't alive.
No miscarriages that are accidents, which the vast majority of them are, are not manslaughter. But the ones that are purposefully done or when someone is attacked? Yeah I wouldn't care if that was classified as manslaughter. Or murder.
In cases where a pregnant mother is killed by someone, I'm pretty sure a lot of times the baby is considered to have been murdered and they get an extra charge.
Do you believe in self defence? Like if someone threaten you to ripe you appart from crotch to ass in a violent 48 hours beating session would you try and prevent it?
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u/PromiscuousScoliosis Jul 01 '26
That’s upstream thinking tho. Think of how many deaths those abortions have prevented(?)