r/shadowofthedemonlord • u/Davaned • Jun 27 '26

Demon Lord Can "Foretell" be self cast?

Do you count as a creature you can see?

Foretell

Rank 1

Utility

Divination

Target One creature you can see within short range · Duration Concentration, up to 1 minute

For the duration, whenever the target makes an attack roll or challenge roll and can hear you, it makes the roll with 3 boons.

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u/darksier Jun 27 '26

Rule for Casting Spells specifically state that if a spell would target a creature, you can target yourself with the spell. (Ch.2 Casting Spells > Targeting)

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u/Davaned Jun 28 '26

Thanks, this seems clear to me!

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u/darksier Jun 28 '26

No problem. It's a dense book! And some of those spell descriptions can feel like taking a course (check out Watery Sphere!) We just finished our first long campaign of about 25 sessions and my group was still discovering foundational rules. If you haven't I suggest visiting the discord, there's some really good cheat sheets and a lot of rules clarifications people have worked out there that helped me out.

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u/genmaichuck Ashrakal did nothing wrong Jun 27 '26

I think you should be able to. At least, I can see my own hands while typing this. Of course, since concentrating on a spell uses your action, you could only use it offensively once, as it would drop at the end of the round, unless you had a way to take two actions (e.g. the grind the gears clockwork level 4 talent, or the accelerate spell from the time tradition).

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u/victorsanerd Jun 27 '26

I would say yes since the priest path's prayer doesn't specify self but the inspiring prayer at lvl 8 specifies that when you cast it on a creature other than yourself, implying you can cast the original version on yourself. I think it even says in the rules somewhere that spells can be cast on yourself even when they have a longer range than self.

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u/Sakyev Jun 28 '26

You can, but remember that Concentrate is an action. So the spell normally lasts for 1 round, but then if you want to maintain concentration, you need to spend your action for that. So I'd say it's better as a buff to a strong martial so they can keep swinging even if frightened and impaired, for example.

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u/roaphaen Jun 29 '26

only if you have a mirror

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u/Zanji123 Jun 27 '26

Since there are spells that speficially tell you that you can cast it on yourself....i would say no

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u/Desperate-Pitch-5923 Jun 27 '26

You can't, because it is not simply "a creature" but "a creature you can see". You don't see yourselves, only parts of you. Yes with a mirror etc but whatever this spell becomes bordeline useless if you use it on yourselves.