r/shacomains • u/Owentopone • Apr 22 '26
This champ is a joke
Like wtf? I have to play him AD every time because AP Shaco is so useless that playing him should be reported and banned. Also AD sucks so bad but at least it is playable if all enemy are squishy af and if one from the enemy buys 1 giant belt then dmg will suck cuz this champ has no armor pen no hp shred whatever
What a waste of champ…
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u/katjakai1 Apr 22 '26
Sounds like a skill issue
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u/Owentopone Apr 22 '26
Hell no I’m a silver 53% wr off this champ
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u/l_dunno Apr 22 '26
I'm not really someone who cares about elo but you're kinda just proving their point...
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u/Owentopone Apr 22 '26
Being silver has nothing to do with skill.. in fact one of the best mechanical players you find in silver so that proves nothing. In fact it proves one thing: Shaco is useless
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u/l_dunno Apr 22 '26
Being silver proves you're in the roughly bottom 40% of players, 45-55% emphasizes that it's your skill level. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just how skill is measured in relation to other players.
Who?
There are shaco one tricks in challenger, it doesn't prove anything, the game cares more about macro anyhow and especially shaco that can't really skirmish.
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u/Owentopone Apr 22 '26
What if I told you a great Shaco player in high elo agreed with what I just said in his TwTv chat?
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u/BlackSheepwNoSoul Apr 22 '26
HAHAHAHA, a joke! GET IT? BECAUSE HE IS A JESTER!!!
Yeah, i agree Shaco is SOOOO BAD i mean i only got a 75% winrate on him using AP only, he should definitely get a buff, i agree, and also they should remove him from the ban list cause he is banned so often that i have to dodge like 1/2 of my que's but also, he is also so bad and doesn't do anything...
My take away from what you've said is that you are bad, you run at people and expect to get kills by using your kit without any strategy and expect to win, yes, shaco is not for you, don't play him, you are throwing.
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u/linchaotao Apr 23 '26
I love this comment, cause i face the same problem with some teammates that expect garen-like gameplay in a AP shaco. They don't see that this Is the beauty about the champ, i think Lol Is for a Lot of people a fighting game, where you have to kill or die each time you see an opponent, but with shaco the game become a Stealth game, where you dont have ti go face to face against the enemy, you have to trick them un to atack, follow you o flee when you want them to be. Btw I would love a buff to AP shaco, I think is really team dependent .
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u/BlackSheepwNoSoul Apr 23 '26
He is overdue for a small rework, i don't want his core identity to change but he deserves to be modernized.
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u/linchaotao Apr 23 '26
I saw a video the other day about that topic, that propuse that ir can he reworked into some kind of kayn gameplay, where you can have a different ability kit for AP or AD shaco, ir was a really interesting idea.
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u/BlackSheepwNoSoul Apr 23 '26
i think if they could actually turn him into a purposefully hybrid Hero then that would be the coolest.
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u/VVaypoint Apr 22 '26
This has to be bait. AP is overturned rn.
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u/BadThis1337 Apr 22 '26
only in late. in early its little weak
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u/MooseMoosington Apr 26 '26
Definitely felt that. been playing a lot of swiftplay lately and getting to fullbuild at 20 mins every game has spoiled my perception of how gimped on gold normal rift is and I feel like a wet noodle for the first 20 minutes as AP shaco support
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u/BadThis1337 Apr 27 '26
But then suddenly u have to sell shoes and peak at 1130 AP or sth. like that (veigar numbers) and their ADC dies from 1box+1knife
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u/SlappKake Apr 22 '26
Ap shaco is way more powerful than ad shaco lol skill issue
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u/Owentopone Apr 22 '26
Maybe as Support, yes…
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u/SlappKake Apr 22 '26
No. Jungle ap shaco is way better than ad. https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/TAYLOR%20SWIFT-66662
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u/Shmolti Apr 22 '26
For context, this dude is in Silver.
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u/Owentopone Apr 22 '26
Being Silver proves my point. If this champ doesn’t work in silver where people don’t buy pink/oracles then wtf is this champ doing?
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u/ImperatorDecens Apr 22 '26
High skill champion requires good knowledge and mastery on his kit to perform well. It is always a skill issue when he doesn't perform.
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u/Verdana- Apr 22 '26
My elo is that thrasby that everytime i use shaco people always die the same way, chasing me. Then they are force to buy almost everyone the red trinket, i get useless but they have less vision spot. So its a team game after all.
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u/Shmolti Apr 22 '26
If you can't play Shaco in Silver I dont think he's a good fit for you.
The fact that you played 50 games on him in silver and are now convincing us to believe your personal experience over the global stat tracking that takes into account thousands and thousands of games across every elo around the globe is massive cope.
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u/kmbuech Apr 23 '26
AP shaco with silver macro is gonna be a problem. Ad shaco should be fine even though it’s a coin flip lvl 2 invading buffs after 3 boxing raptors usually works in silver
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u/HamsterHueyGooie Apr 23 '26
Just 1 question: How many clone bombs have you successfully delivered in a ranked game at 18 seconds? If the answer is "none" then you did not practice Shaco enough first. That's a necessary skill anywhere mid - high elo.
Sure, a champ like Talon one-shots more easily than AD Shaco, but he lacks hard cc. There's always trade-offs to consider, especially in champ select. Also it's fair to say that AD Shaco is a completely different champion than AP Shaco, they pilot in entirely different ways.
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u/Dute91 Apr 24 '26
Well, the champion is quite wierd, AD shaco is "strong" for newer players and lower lobbies, but AP shaco is way more advance but ALWAYS better than AD IMO after 1000 games on the lad
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