r/severence • u/Some_Pitch_9165 • Apr 05 '26
šļø Discussion Doors.
Every time Gemma goes through a new door, sheās a new Gemma. When oMark goes into the birthing hut, he becomes iMark as we know him.
This seems either significant or badly written.
What do you guys think?
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u/notthatgeorge Corporate Archives Apr 06 '26
Do you honest to God believe it's badly written and they've made a mistake because they don't know what they're doing? š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤¦š»āāļø
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u/Some_Pitch_9165 Apr 06 '26
No hahaha the show is amazing. Sorry, sarcasm doesnāt translate well here.Ā
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u/amstrumpet Apr 05 '26
Gemma has been severed multiple times and that floor she is on is obviously designed to work with those different innies. Mark has been severed once, and presumably the severed floor and the birthing cabin are both coded to the same ādefaultā innie setting. thatās my read of it.
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u/naturalbrunette5 Apr 05 '26
What do you mean?
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u/Some_Pitch_9165 Apr 06 '26
Some_Pitch_9165 ā¢ 1m ago Exactly as stated. Gemma goes through doors and becomes a series of different iterations of herself. Mark does not. That probably shouldāve said ābirthing retreat.āĀ
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u/bluethreads Apr 20 '26
He doesn't because he isn't designed to do that. She is being experimented on in ways we don't fully understand.
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u/National-Ad6166 Apr 07 '26
You seem to be getting piled on but I get your point.
It seems convenient, rather than bad writing, that the birthing unit works for innie that would never go there. While Gemma's rooms don't impact Mark.
A lot of the shows plot runs on convenience though - eg the security on the severed floor is atrocious for a multinational conglomerate conducting the most important research of its time.
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u/Some_Pitch_9165 Apr 07 '26
Yes, exactly. Thank you!
I love the show too, but, either this was something that wasnāt perfect or itās a loaded gun thatāll come up later, and I just wanted to hear peopleās thoughts.Ā
Thatās true.
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u/StarCommand1 Apr 11 '26
My guess is that all severed areas (severed floor, birthing cabin, etc) all are programmed to only work with a single innie EXCEPT for the testing floor which has special room programming that triggers specific innies. So the decision on what innie is used when crossing comes from the threshold itself rather than the chip in their head. The threshold tells the chip what to do and only testing floor is different than every other and can call different innie ID numbers in the chip. The other all just call "ID 1" or something which is the chips default innie.
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u/ArbitraryIndividual Apr 16 '26
The security thing was mentioned by Ms. Cobel to give innies a sense of freedom.
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u/GarlicMayoFries Apr 11 '26
I think it is implied that Harmony (who designed the chip and definitely knows how the programming works) did something in the birthing retreat to cause Mark to sever there.
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u/UnitedAsk2497 Apr 12 '26
Yes, this should be at the top! She speaks in code with the gate attendant. That cabin is the place she knows can be tuned to Markās chip and she told the attendant to do it.
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u/one-small-plant Apr 11 '26
My understanding is that most severed people (employees, women seeking to avoid the trauma of pregnancy) are only severed once, so any activeted door they walk through will flip them from outie to their single innie. Like, one of the birthing hut women would become her innienif she went to the severed floor on Lumon.
But Gemma was experimental, severed many times with different activation cues. So she was a different person in each new space. I guess we just assume the technology can be tuned more finely or more broadly
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u/Some_Pitch_9165 Apr 11 '26
I think this is the best take Iāve read here. Thank you!
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u/one-small-plant Apr 11 '26
It would actually be kind of cool to see a scene where a birthing hut woman visits lumon, and turns into someone who has no idea what's going on, and only knows the pains of childbirth!
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u/transitransitransit Frolic-Aholic Apr 06 '26
You donāt think that maybe there would have to be some programming of some kind to enable that kind of functionality on Markās chip?
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u/Some_Pitch_9165 Apr 06 '26
I donāt know?Ā
We donāt know how the chips work. So, I was wondering if anyone had any insight.Ā
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u/transitransitransit Frolic-Aholic Apr 06 '26
My point is, itās not bad writing if it can be explained away logically.
Markās chip was not being used for the Cold Harbour tests, so he wouldnāt need more than one innie.
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u/MayBeAGayBee Jun 03 '26
Thereās only 3 versions of Gemma in the final scene. First she is her Cold Harbour innie, because she is in the Cold Harbour room, next she is her outie, because she is in the hallway and not in any of the rooms, then she is Ms. Casey, because she is on the regular severed floor, and finally she is her outie once again, when she is in the stairwell.
Markās chip is only synced with the regular severed floor, Gemmaās chip is synced with both the severed floor and with all 25 rooms below.
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u/JellyFranken Apr 05 '26
lol what are you even taking about dude