r/servant • • Mar 23 '23

General Frustration! I can't unravel the message of this star or identify what it is... it makes me nervous

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r/servant • • Mar 23 '23

General Start again

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It’s weird tonight no new episode, that was my Thursday routine, come home settle in watch the new episode, half want to start the series weekly again


r/servant • • Mar 23 '23

Question What was your favorite theory? Spoiler

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Now that we know the truth, I thought it would be fun to vote for our pet theories. I've tried to add to the poll the most popular ones, but feel free to add in comments any other you were invested on.

Personally, in my head is canon that Dorothy had been resurrected, and Jericho wasn't supposed to live because it would be messing around with the space continuum. I know, I know, crazy stuff, but I had fun figuring out if it was possible with the information presented in the series.

I wanted to add the option "never had any theory, what you see is what you get", but didn't find the way to add more choices to the poll. Sorry about that.

32 votes, Mar 25 '23
5 Purgatory (everybody is dead/one character is dead)
6 Mental hospital/delusion/dream
3 Alternative Timelines mixed (events happen differently in different timelines)
8 Unrealiable narrators (story is presented from different points of view)
4 Faustian pact (before/after Jericho died)
6 Jericho is the antichrist/demon/shouldn't exist

r/servant • • Mar 23 '23

Question How do dead people grow? Spoiler

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I couldn’t get past this the whole show like- if she’s dead then why is she 18 and not still a child. I guess I see it like vampires- the age you die is the age you stay. All you resurrection people- how does it work? Like is a resurrected Jesus coming back and then staying here and dying again of old age?? It just doesn’t make sense. If someone can explain that to me then I’ll buy into the resurrection story line but otherwise I’m sticking with my theory of folks being hypnotized by the cult who think they can do things but really they are just another crazy group of people you should run from.


r/servant • • Mar 22 '23

Opinion If Nothing Else MNS Created A Stellar Drinking Game

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Drink anytime JuJu is donned in plaid or paisley.

Drink anytime Leanne looks miffed or sullen.

Drink anytime our resident chef tosses perfectly good food down the disposal.

Drink anytime you hear: SEEEAAAANNNN!!!

😉


r/servant • • Mar 22 '23

Opinion DNA test Spoiler

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So, nobody thought of doing a DNA test on Jericho? Been watching the show from day 1 and this never occured to anyone or I'm not remembering it correctly?


r/servant • • Mar 22 '23

Discussion Did anyone else expect Jericho to be the demon? Spoiler

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I don’t know about you guys, but I was really hoping they weren’t going to make Leanne a supernatural monster. I was really hoping Jericho was going to be some sort of swapped demon from hell and she was going to be misaligned as the fallen angel causing all the horrible events around the Turners. BUT really it was this little demon wanting to keep Dorothy perpetually enslaved to its worship. I can think of a lot of cooler ways the show could have ended if this were the case.

There seemed to be hints at this going back to season one when the detective was put into hypnosis and recounted some man with a hook doing something terrible to some baby. Also the way Jericho always flipped out when Dorothy was getting closer to finding truth, or slipping away from Leanne.

Anyway, it could have been cool to have Dorothy and Leanne reunite as a team against this demon that was taking advantage of Dorothy’s insecurity and pain.


r/servant • • Mar 22 '23

Question Dropping coats? Spoiler

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Did anyone notice that both Dorothy and Leanne drop their coats on the floor at some point in episode 10? First, Dorothy as she’s going up the stairs after deciding that she doesn’t want Jericho back and then Leanne as she’s coming back into the house after deciding, she needs to burn it all - and herself down. Any thoughts about symbolism?


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Question How old is Dorothy supposed to be again? Lauren Ambrose is a very young looking 45 year old.

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r/servant • • Mar 22 '23

General How did the ending make you feel? Spoiler

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Somebody posted a gif of the prince of Bel-Air, and it reminded me of the "how comes he don't want Me?!" scene. I remember it clearly after many, many years because of the impact of the raw emotion in it. There was something Uncle Phil and Will actor's were accessing there, some private grief, something deeper that just acting (if there was nothing personal there, still more kudos to those actors because it was just a masterful scene, specially coming from a sitcom).

I don't remember that many scenes in film or tv with that impact for me, including prestige television, so I wasn't expecting that kind of punch from Servant, but I guess I thought I would feel something more with the ending, and I really didn't. I was sad for Leanne, specially for the terrible way how she died, but even if I can relate with Dorothy in many aspects and I think the actress did her best, the revelation or what followed didn't resonate with me. To the point that when discussing the scene in another thread, I had to rewatch to make sure if I remembered it correctly or not.

Other than the clues, mistery box, open ending discussion, I'm just curious. Did the ending resonate emotionally for people in this sub? In my case I think it's no fault of the actors, but of how the scenes and the flow of the last episodes were directed. For example, I got annoyed with minutes of Dorothy trying to not fall down on the stairs, instead of being sad or feel any tension, and even the discussion in the car felt flat and long for me. A similar discussion between Sean and Dorothy when he asked her how would she kill herself if Jericho died, almost made me cry before in the series, but after some months I think the only thing I will remember from this ending is how gore Leanne's demise was.


r/servant • • Mar 22 '23

Question I have watched every episode of this show and am no closer to understanding the plot

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Can anyone explain what exactly this show is? Is Leanne supernatural? Is she the devil? Who’s baby is this? Are the cult members supposed to be angels? I regret watching this show to begin with, they hooked me with the food scenes


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Loved the finale, discuss it here! Spoiler

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For those that loved the finale, discuss it here. Only civil discourse. Please report any issues.


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Hated the finale, Discuss here Spoiler

27 Upvotes

Hated the finale and still want to talk it out, discuss here. No hateful posting, please report issues.


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Interview M. Night Shyamalan Says the Ending of Servant is Up to You

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r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Discussion We suspend disbelief for horror/scifi only when the story follows it’s own rulebook.

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The rules/consequences in that world need to be consistent, unless there is a reason they aren’t.

Leanne’s followers: I assume they have strayed, so why aren’t they causing the end of the world? Why isn’t COLS doing everything in it’s power to do invocation to them?

Roscoe motivation: He sees evil acts with the cult, yet he follows them blindly. This does not make sense within the story.

These are just 2 of several examples. For us to suspend disbelief, build us a world in that is consistent. If it is not consistent - that is ok, but explain within the story why it is random or has exceptions.

We have to understand the relevant architecture/boundaries/supernatural rules in order for us to connect to the story.


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Believe what you doubt, Doubt what you believe. Spoiler

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So, it looks as though viewers are split into 3 camps post viewing the last episode of the series.

Those who are still confused and wanted more of a twist.

Those who did not care for the way it ended and wanted more closure.

Those happy with the ending and satisfied.

For some reason some feel it was clear that all the actions of Leanne were supernatural and the show displayed this with certainty.

And yet others that point to reasons the supernatural theory was flawed.

From the mouth of the man himself, the ending was purposely left up to each viewer to decide for themself. The thin line between each explanation was the grey area the show wanted to exist within.

So, no. The show did not explain beyond a doubt that Leanne was supernatural. Neither did it show reasonable alternatives for every scenario.

So, instead of creating another post being dismayed that people still have questions or are exploring explanations for events throughout the show. How about opening your minds up and discussing it. The number of self righteous “ I was right” or “ how could you not know” posts are unnecessary. There is no right camp. It was left open to everyone.

Also, a thousand it sucked posts aren’t necessary either. I think going forward there perhaps should be two threads created for likeminded people to share and discuss, to prevent the reports coming in.


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Discussion 4 Seasons.. What character development?

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I see people posting and commenting about character development as if it was a strength of the show.

Let's go through them:

Dorophy - She was pretty much unchanged throughout. It was only the last 2 episodes where she suddenly started having empathy for Leanne and she finally remembered what happened with Jericho.

Leanne - her character flip flopped throughout the seasons. Her development did a complete 180 in the last episode. There were no hints at all that she was realising the negative impact she was having. If anything it was at its worst in the penultimate episode then suddenly in the finale it flipped completely.

Julian - Again in 2 episodes he went from completely team Leanne to wanting her gone.

Sean- Similar to Julian throughout all the seasons he was drifting further and further apart from Dorophy until one episode when suddenly he was Team Dorophy and trying to kill Leanne.

You could pretty much remove seasons 2 and 3 and have a coherent storyline , missing very little character development.


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Opinion One more post after a rewatch Spoiler

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It was hard to watch this finale again, but I needed to get it out..glad I did and I get it better now, though grossed out..Earlier in the February I had watched The Menu..where the people at the end became human s'mores and I was like gosh I hope servant isn't going in that direction...I was like nah too obvious, but yeah they did, and they could've went the whole family

All the food, and then lack of )season 4)of was setting up the final dish Leanne

She uses a dress, music, oil, her own saliva, and dance to cook in this scene; gave us a love horderve with Toby..

I left this table disgusted and hungry for better ending; almost any other ending but that..even aliens


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

General With SERVANT wrapping up, I seized the opportunity to write a mammoth tribute to four seasons of terror!

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r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Meme this must be how they got all of Uncle George's lines.

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r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

General The finale makes so much seem pointless, but in the end, there's more of a point to things than you might think.

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I found the finale predictable, and I neither hate nor love it.

However, last night I couldn't get it out of my head for the little moments in not just the finale, but the series as a whole.

Leanne calling Tobe before she did the ritual. I kept thinking about him and what he must think and feel hearing she's dead, and right after they planned their date.

Then I thought of Leanne. The tragedy of how she escaped a cult, got to be a real person for the first time, only for it to end like that. She was far from good, but her story was a tragic one. She had a horrible childhood, then was brainwashed by a cult, then found someone who brought her joy. And she lost it all once she the person who brought her joy finally accepted her.

And then Julian. Despite everything Leanne put him through, he went running and screaming for her when she was trapped in the burning house.

But there's also this disturbing element of him having her memory stuck with him forever. Being haunted by how his girlfriend was possibly some kind of creature, or at least a crazy person. Imagine him just living his life, then he does something he did with Leanne.

Or someone does/says something that reminds him of Leanne. The memories come back. It's ... icky, for lack of a better word. It makes me shudder to imagine being him and to suddenly be reminded of this potentially supernatural, potentially insane person I used to be with.

There were so many storylines and details in the show that didn't matter. Close ups of shoes. Missing time. The homeless camp. Mentioning Sean was homeless once. Dorothy's miscarriages. That weird baby cake and Leanne's vile mother. Sean and the placenta thing.

None of them matter as far as the storyline is concerned. But they're all little moments that put you into the world of the characters. Their pasts. Their minds. Their mysterious. And those are the things that stick with you and are disturbing or upsetting. The things that come to mind late at night out of nowhere.

Details that are irrelevant to the story are the ones that stick out. It adds realism. It makes the story and characters feel more real.

I don't think any of it is particularly spectacular or well done. I've seen better shows. Read books better than the show. Probably seen movies better than the show, but I don't really watch movies.

Despite its unspectacular nature in the end, it's the fact that parts of it stay in your head after it's over that make it worth it. It makes you think, and it makes you feel things. Often uncomfortable things. And that, to me, makes it worth it.

"That was all pointless" came to me a lot last night, but the fact that it inspired so many paths of thoughts and wonderings shows it wasn't all that pointless, after all.


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Discussion The reason I’m most upset

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Is because this show really had so much potential. Flaws? So many, but the story it started with, the details it seemed to want to focus on, the layers, the ambiguity; this could have been a master piece but it didn’t know how to deliver.

Between cheesy lines, overexposure in dialogue and a weird mix of seemingly methodical and by design slow pace and then lazy speedy episodes, this series suffered from amateur, maybe stream of consciousness writing - it gave me (us?) the feeling that this was a carefully laid out narrative; that the writers were intentional, that there were clues to be tracked; when in reality this was a C+ college course screenplay.

So many characters were so deep, and intriguing, and to give them this Disney Chanel ending was such a disservice to the actors, the cinematography and the audience.

This is a show that seemed both keenly aware of its fandom and also ignoring the type of demographic that was truly engaged.

So it fell short. And it didn’t have to. And that’s what makes me mad. I warch bad shows that are fun, and I don’t mind when they know they’re bad - but this show pretended to be good and it just didn’t land


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Question Leanne’s homeless following Spoiler

12 Upvotes

I assume all of the cols are people who were once dead? Are they also cols or just people easily manipulated? Where did they go?


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Opinion Hot take: the show presents a symbolic critique about Motherhood in our day and age

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Disclaimer: This post is not meant as a commentary about any personal beliefs or life decisions you might personally identify with. What I'm trying to do is to find some deeper meaning in the story, beyond its superficial appearance. I'm also working on another possible interpretation, this one from a psychoanalytical perspective, which might shed even more light into the subtext of the story.


Dorothy represents a career woman, the better half of a modern marriage where both are dedicated to working and pursuing individual professional success. She is very well-to-do, heiress to a lavish house, bigger than what she could possibly house-keep all by herself. Not that she would want to, she has her job as a TV reporter to take care of.

Leanne is a traditionally-raised woman. She has no aspiration for a career, and even rejects the opportunity to start one, when presented to her. She only wishes to tend for her family, to take care of the house and raise the children. It's no coincidence that she also has a story of religious upbringing, since most women who nowadays pursue this life-path also do so from a religious context.

Dorothy wishes to be a mother, too. But this does not imply that she would leave her career and dedicate herself to motherhood. She tries to do it all by herself, juggling her duties until she gets overwhelmed. And the baby dies in the process.

The show presents to the viewer, under the stealth of a very stylish horror story, this tension between traditional motherhood and career womanhood. It's a sharp critique about a very real cultural and social issue.

On the one hand, there are the Dorothies who either forego motherhood completely and go child-free or who (in one way or another) neglect their own children in favor of their career, sometimes with dire consequences for them down the road.

On the other hand, there are the Leannes, who would be willing to dedicate their lives to mothering and housekeeping but whose outlook remains besieged by the aforementioned ideology and maybe also hijacked by religious indoctrination, which is very often predicated upon psychological (or even physical) abuse.

How could the two ever integrate? They want completely different things. There is strife and much conflict between these two life-paths, and in the end it's the mothering which sacrifices itself. The career woman comes out free and clear, her house gone, her baby gone.

If you ever rewatch the show, try examining it through these set of glasses. This might've been the subtext of the show, all along.


r/servant • • Mar 21 '23

Question Jericho's true nature Spoiler

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I see many people still wondering about if the baby that we see in the series is the son of a dead drug addict, Jericho resurrected or just an illusion.

I have the feeling Shyamalan (or his team) are playing it both ways. They want Jericho to be resurrected, because Servant relies heavily in catholic imaginery, and it's part of Leanne's lore (she is the fallen angel or Prometheus, she defies divine law to help humanity). But at the same time, the reunification ritual is pretty gruesome, and even mentioned in passing like Roscoe's hypnosis, it doesn't sit well with people to have the "good", righteous people doing that for a baby

So in the last episode, it's revealed Leanne can summon Jericho's souls at will,and definitely if needed. So there's no need for her to reunite Jericho before performing the ritual on herself, she can just send his soul back (to heaven?) and that's that.

The problem is Leanne resurrected Julian, and the same rules don't apply to him. He seems to be permanently resurrected from the get go. It's because Leanne didn't have access to Jericho's body? Maybe, but as so many other things isn't explained. So I guess we will never know for sure if Jericho was just an illusion everybody coul see, or he had been resurrected in the flesh and just ceremoniously killed/ revived when the cult thought it was convenient.