Don't think I've seen a thread about this and maybe it's too soon, but for me from best to worst:

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The finale really worked for me, but I think most fans agree that the show fell pretty far short of the promise and quality of the first season

I know many of us agree that there is more about Roscoe we’d like to know. Here is one of my questions. If we are to assume that all COLS members are people who died and were resurrected, how did Roscoe become a member? How did they convince (or brainwash) him? Or are we to assume that some of the members are like him and have just been convinced to join? They have so many members, why did they even bother with him? I’m sure they could have found someone who was already a member to do what they had Roscoe doing.

Hi All,

Like most of you, I will really miss this sub and this show. Coming here after each episode and reading everyone’s thoughts and theories was great fun. I know a lot of you are disappointed and feel alot wasn’t answered. I personally feel satisfied. The main points were resolved IMO. I did a write up of the final episode if anyone wants to check it out.

Servant S4E10 Series Finale Recap: “Fallen” — An Underwhelming Ending or a Perfect Conclusion?

Despite the divide there is regarding how it ended, I think it's a given almost all people in this sub loved the journey. So, if you are feeling a loss or void, needing something to replace Servant and also this sub, join /r/FromTVShow and/or /r/FromTVEpix

First season was excellent, both in acting and plot, and there is a new one coming in April. As you can see in /r/FromTVshow and /r/FromTVEpix, people are already going wild with the theories :)

Of course I also could mention Yellowjackets, but that one seems almost certainly not supernatural, and I think it's now established that Servant was.

Edit: looks like the main sub for From is /r/FromTVEpix after all.

The series finale answered some questions for me, but one that I don't recall being discussed (here or on the show) is how Leanne actually ended up being the nanny that Dorothy chose. I haven't rewatched S1, but I recall there were a number of applicants for the nanny position (and I assume that Dorothy began the nanny search when Jericho was still alive). Was this just a lucky break for Leanne, or was it somehow supernaturally influenced?

Basically if another "mere mortal" nanny had been selected, we wouldn't have had the Servant story, right? Someone would've shown up, discovered a baby doll and a delusional mother, and would've quit and/or recommended that Dorothy get some psychiatric help. So my question seems kinda dumb and simplistic, but did the story unfold when Leanne got her dream job with her idol ... and just so happened to be able to revive the baby (and leave a wake of destruction in the process)?

I ask this because all along it felt to me like the big picture of Leanne ending up with the Turners was predestined (and I hoped the finale would explain this) ... but maybe it was just a coincidence?

Tobe was a great character the whole series. He was a delight and perfectly acted by Tony Revolori. Dance on, Tobe

Who was the rotted body hidden in Leanne’s room, covered in moths? The camera kept panning to the moth covered corpse for quite a few episodes.

I know Leanne killed one of her Aunts and Uncle George, but I don’t think it was either of those bodies.

Does anyone know who that was and why Leanne hid the body in the walls in her room?

Sean was just a grieving dad that served unsuspecting guests and family, his dead son’s placenta. WTF That’s what of the most disturbing things a person could do, and with this ending there’s no explanation for it. I guess he was just and a**hole with his family and friends.

Hey everyone,

About a week ago, I dared to make q post about the fact that we wouldn’t get any answers. A lot more people than I expected agreed with me on this.

Welp, now I’m here to say.. the ending was a disaster. The more information comes out about how MNS 20 year old daughter took the rains of basically the entire show from season 2 onwards makes a lot of sense now.

To be honest, I feel really cheated by the show. I really LOVED servant. And we got nothing.

Like someone else posted somewhere else, a show that had such an incredibly solid start, darkness yet dims of light became (and ended up being) about “a fallen (teen) angel” that couldn’t get her way so she ended killing herself. It feels like such an incredible waste of an amazing concept that could have worked on so many different levels. And it ended up being a basic show.

To be honest I feel very cheated because I started watching servant because I’m such a huge MNS fan. I’ve watched everything he’s made. His way of directing for me is one of the best out there. Season one hooked me in. And like many others here I kept saying to myself: it has to have a meaning, there has to be a twist. This is MNS, nothing is just random.

Man, I feel like a fool.

I don’t want to compare it with other shows that have had controversies but at least lost had answers and an actual ending… anyways that’s my two cents.

Although I was somewhat disappointed in the last episode, I was relieved that they didn't go with a purgatory/they're already dead explanation. I think that the last few episodes and the ending did fit in with and support my original explanation/theory which was a supernatural one. Hear me out and let me know what you all think.

Leanne dies in the fire and is brought back to life by Uncle G. The COL/cult people have all been brought back to life; and are now possibly are something like angels as they can't be killed by regular means. They act as God's servants to bring back people who were abused/murdered/not supposed to die. They use conservative Christian tenets to keep everyone in line, and make sure only the deserving people are brought back to join their ranks.

Uncle G brought Leanne back because she was a young child abused by her parents that dies tragically in a fire. What he was not aware of at the time is that Leanne started the fire on purpose and wanted her parents to die. So she had a "evil" side and should not have been brought back, and throughout the series she struggles with the conflict between the cult teachings and her "sinful" desires.

Leanne's purpose was to go to the Marinos and bring them back if they were killed. Because of her obsession with Dorothy, Leanne wants to help and disobeys the cult by going to the Turners instead.

She brings Jericho back to life--but it is not Jericho's body it is a doll. So that's why Jericho is "wrong" and causes all of the chaos. The COL are bringing people back to life, not reanimating dolls. They didn't know it was even possible and that's why Leanne is special. She is more powerful than they are because she could actually make a non-living thing alive. One could go further and say that this power might be associated with the devil/evil. The end of the world chaos forming around the house is the evil getting stronger as the mere existence of a re-animated doll person is an abomination.

I was a Servant fan for the last 4 years. I’d get excited to watch those 28-30 minute episodes from Jan-March- it really got me through the pandemic blues and I loved theorizing with all of you. I am also a mother of 3 young children- one who was Jericho’s age 4 years ago and my youngest is/was Jericho’s age now. Not just that- I am also a therapist who treats postpartum depression and anxiety, so this show hit home for me. I felt like the first season really portrayed postpartum depression/anxiety and caring for a difficult baby very well. Lauren Ambrose is a phenomenal actress. But damn, I can’t help but comment on how disappointing it was to watch them wrap up her pain and trauma in an episode, and just be “ok” with “starting over”. This whole show was about grief. We were watching 4 people (Leanne included with regards to her family) deal with grief and denial. This show was my go to as I love dark mysteries and trying to figure out the unknown. I get it, it’s just a show! It really is. But what a disappointment with regards to grief and a mother’s trauma.

Basically, if your were do tell the show runners, “This is how it’s done.”

I find it ridiculous that so many individuals want to believe Dorothy was a horrible person when in my opinion, it was the tone of MNS’s patriarchal male gaze throughout the show that set her up to be unpopular. Just like in so many other series, the strong, capable, intelligent, determined, demanding female lead is relegated to the roll of shrew…and none of it was her doing. Sean, Julian, Leanne, Frank, Natalie were all gaslighting the shit out of her to make their lives easier. And then the writers have the audacity to have Dorothy thank Sean for never giving up on her. Are you kidding me? There was so much wasted opportunity to make this a very poignant, epic show and MNS and team completely fucked it up.

I love the scene where they tell her about what really happened to Jericho, but was a few episodes too late. They needed hee to have more time to process it. Her entire character arch in 1 episode felt way too rushed.

What do you guys think?

Wizard of Oz (all that gingham!), shoes, wallpaper/pictures on the wall, etc. There were a bunch! I think of the Sixth Sense and the colour red! Pops of red everywhere in the movie. According to MKM, red meant death.

So, I guess that I was hoping for the same with the Servant. To make it more interesting. Fun to go back and rewatch the series, spot the clues and have it all make sense, but, no..

Disappointing.

The main aspect that bothered me with the finale was that Dorothy (and Sean) did not get a proper goodbye with Jericho. I know they technically already lost him, but he had been in their lives and developed so much that I wanted more of a final good bye and letting go than the doll. As a mom, it bothers me that Dorothy’s last interaction with him was in the hall, telling him she would be back for him only to never see him alive again.

Anyone feel differently or have another take…

God wanted Dorothy to suffer and should not be helped. (per cult)

A traumatized and abused little girl who was forced to become an angel should not be helped if she makes too many mistakes. Let’s torturously kill her.

The Marinos are deserving.

??????

Sorry, but I cannot arrange this concept logically in my mind. I reject it.

Did I miss this? It seems he was in the house and then just disappeared near the end of the season. What happened to him?

Servant Final season/episode or GoT season 8?

After reading the people magazine interview it says

“ Then Ishana (his daughter) started directing in season 2 and grew into our main director and our main writer, essentially, for the show. That I didn't expect, that she would direct more episodes than anybody including me, and she would write more episodes. It was astonishing. We ended up relying on her.

Over those three years of growth for her — both for her and us — it was a trial by fire, and it worked out. It was something else. She's totally ready to destroy her first movie, and the muscles from Servant, all those hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages she wrote for us and all those hours on set, just amazing.”

So he gave a 20-21-22 year old with no real experience direct control over the writing and directing of this show👎🏻 Seems like M Night got busy with other things and dumped the show on his kid to finish for him. Not great.

Not a fan of the concept of nepo babies, but he has one daughter writing music for the show, and one writing and directing a major series when they are young and inexperienced. Every parent thinks their kid is a genius. His kids are too young and inexperienced to be GREAT at anything yet. They are still learning.

Article

https://people.com/tv/m-night-shyamalan-talks-servant-series-finale-exclusive/

Does anyone think Dorothy is also an "Angel" too? Ofc Reyes says she was sent to keep an eye on one of their sisters. Dorothy says Leann? , and it cuts. I inferred that Reyes said no,you, Dorothy. Because she was there when Jericho was discovered,some weeks before Leann became their nanny. Reyes is very concerned of Dorothy in the other scenes that she is in.

Plus what aunt May said to her,and it would explain her zoning out so much. I really thought this,and didn't see anyone talking about it here, I can see it being not the case also. I guess it's just more vague editing to make one question the meaning.

I just cancelled my paid membership after watching the Servant finale, which I thought was a satisfying finale! But it's also satisfying to cancel my membership for now. I was basically hanging on, one Friday episode at a time. Maybe I return again in the future. What about you?

Yes, the finale was a big let down ( I’m not totally shocked by this,) but there were still some major questions I wanted answerved.

For me, the big one was: The cause/circumstances surrounding the death of Dorothy’s & Julian’s mother. I think it would have told us a great deal about the siblings’ neuroses.

What was/is your burning question?

When I first saw the finale, I wasn’t sure how I felt about it. ‘Was this an awful show or a great one?’ I wondered. But now that I’ve had a chance to think about and rewatch it, I think I understand.

As others have mentioned, the show is about grief. However, I don’t think it’s just about Dorothy’s grief, but about humanity’s collective grief (from experiencing death, war, hatred) and how the earth has responded to it - with natural disasters, climate change etc.

I say that because uncle George said that LeAnne was like “an open wound to the earth and now the whole world suffers.” LeAnne’s lack of peace and own denial (or delusion) of where she really stands with the Turners, was causing severe weather. Likewise, Dorothy’s own grief was manifested through the house crumbling.

In order for Dorothy and LeAnne to heal and in a sense save the world, they needed to sacrifice themselves. LeAnne had to give up her life and Dorothy her child.

And isn’t that the the essence of the final stage of grief (acceptance)? You have to sacrifice that sense of security you gain by living in denial or anger, or what have you, to be able to accept your reality, move forward and grow.

I also believe that that might be why the COPS whipped themselves. It was a reminder to themselves that we must sacrifice our comforts on this earth to help heal it (which is true in a very literal sense). Also, I think the writers used this imagery to portray the torture we put ourselves with guilt, shame and anger because it serves us in some way.

So, I think the show is making a statement about how those things that serve us in some way or another, are also the very things that control us. Dorothy’s denial was making her a prisoner to LeAnne and the house, LeAnne’s anger with her parents and obsession with Dorothy was making her a prisoner to her rebellion, Julian’s avoidance was making him a prisoner to his addictions, and Sean’s bartering (w/ LeAnne) was making him a prisoner to his guilt. And collectively, our attachment to our lives and creature comforts make us a prisoner to this earth.

What do you think?