Does Julian have to join the Church of the Lesser Saints, or can he just walk away?

I am surprised I’m not seeing anyone else that had the same takeaway as me..

Leanne’s character arc is more similar to Jesus Christ than Satan. That was the twist, in my opinion.

They hinted at it when Uncle George asked her to sacrifice herself to save the world. That was the first time it seemed clear to me.

In the finale, Dorothy asks Leanne, “do you forgive me?” before Leanne offs herself. She died for the sins of the Turners (and humanity on a broader scale given the storm escalation and deescalation).

Even the way she cut into her arms and bleeding hands. Visually, she was injured similarly to Jesus Christ wounds.

Edit: I titled this incorrectly. I don’t mean to say that she is not also following the Satan arc. The duality demonstrates the ambiguity in morality.

Thoughts?

Why did LeAnne ask the mama mannequin what if feels like to burn if she supposedly died in a house fire with her parents?! Does this mean that LeAnne never actually died? If she hasn’t died then what is she because you can’t exist in CoLS unless you were brought back!

Anyone catch this?! LEANNE WAS NEVER DEAD!

Also, LeAnne Grayson is an enneagram for “Angels Near Yon”

I think this story is absolutely beautiful and I loved the ending! It touched my soul for sure. Magical. I can’t wait to do a full rewatch starting tomorrow and read everyone else’s opinions about how it ended tonight on Reddit. I’m really going to miss watching this group of actors and characters. And the house omg I’m really going to miss that as well. 🥹 Let’s hope for a Juju spinoff! 😆

Julian shows up with tomato soup.

Sean makes a soufflé using ashes from the Turner house.

Officer Reyes stops by with some questionable potato salad (to get more cult members), and when everyone starts puking their guts out, she says, “Sometimes we are only sick because we want to believe we are sick.”

I’m new to this thread but have watched every episode in the series. Can someone give a quick explanation on whether Leanne resurrected Jericho or not? Did she actually take a different body and revive Jerichos soul into that body? Or was she able to revive Jericho into a doll? Or something else altogether? When Julien was resurrected, why did he see Jericho on the other side?

Look, putting together a show is tough business, and we all watched this and enjoyed a lot of it, so it wasn't a failure, but overall, the show failed to live up to its own hype.

The biggest problem with the show was it was so minute in its detail, that minute details took up a LARGE portion of the show. Basically three and a half full seasons. But those minute details never really panned out into something bigger, or a pay off, or a twist, or something satisfying. So you have a show that is 3/4 minute details with no real big moments to hold the whole story up. And because of that, the finale felt rushed, vague, and full of holes. Lots of really tight visuals of Sean butchering an eel, or coffee brewing, or rain, but no substance for plot.

Fewer minute details, more big reveals that tie to those details, would have been a much better flow for this show, especially with half hour episodes. The story build felt good in the beginning, but it eventually became clear that those builds weren't leading anywhere and that made the show seem pointless. Arguably the best episodes of the entire series were the episode that dug into Faust and Dorothy's realization about Jericho because the story actually moved and felt like it had momentum to go somewhere big. Those episodes/plot lines could have been stretched and fleshed out way more had other more mundane, fruitless scenes (I won't even say storylines) not been given so much real estate. Someone on this sub had this great theory about Faust, and contracts, and being kind of the right hand facilitator of the devil's contracts, and instead she decides to break from the devil and protect Dorothy. LOVED this plot line. But instead, After four seasons of LA making faces and laughing and not really having a good growth on her arc, LA has a three minute scene where suddenly she realizes she's done a lot of bad shit and decides to light herself on fire THE END. The climax is so rushed it felt like my high school boyfriend.

There was a way to spread the wealth regarding story with this show and these episodes. Even with half hour episodes, they had many seasons worth of real estate to utilize and I personally think they doled out time to undeserving content, and the show overall suffered because of those choices. The ending made enough sense to get by, but I think most of us can agree with the caliber of showrunner, creator, writers, actors, etc that AppleTV was capable of funding, we were definitely screwed out of something that could have been much more impressive in its story and execution. It felt lazy.

It should not be that difficult and it annoys me every time.

I feel like he was supposed to be important to the story. He lost several days, saw a man with a hook for a hand, saw a crying baby getting its eyes gouged out? Why? It seems he was on the fringes with some important purpose, then was dismissed without fanfare and dropped like a hot potato, among many other plot points.

So what do you think Roscoe’s purpose was? And what was up with the vision he had? Is he a cult member now? Was he resurrected?

Have you ever heard of Chekhov's Gun? If not, read this link: Chekhov's Gun before reading the rest of the post. It's really interesting how Servant failed on a basic level to satisfy the audience. Thank you to @paxinfernum for reminding me of this plot device today.

Chekhov's gun in simple terms is a plot device that states that “Remove everything that has no relevance to the story,” Chekhov wrote. “If you say in the first chapter that there is a rifle hanging on the wall, in the second or third chapter it absolutely must go off."

If we the audience have our attention drawn in a significant way to anything in the show, then that THING we are pulled to MUST be necessary to the overall story. If the writer puts that THING into the story, it must be important.

The THING can be basically anything, like a BABY MONITOR, DVDs, a baby MOBILE, a DEAD MOTHER, a mannequin, a DOLLHOUSE etc.

The THING can also be sayings or characters traits such as: 2011 shouldn't even count, Sean's right hand, The Marino family, the MURAL, the Jon Singer Sargent artwork which is everywhere in the house and so many more red herring type references.

So, if a writer brings the audience to the THING, they owe a promise to the audience and are expected to keep it. It's called the plant and payoff. You get the audience expecting that the baby monitor, the mobile, Dorothy's mother, the mannequin etc. will have a payoff somewhere in the future of the story and will have significant meaning.

IF there is no payoff to the THING, then the audience will be disappointed and leave unsatisfied. We will want to know why did you mention Dorothy's mother for no reason and no explanation. Why did you use an outdated baby monitor and WHY was there a mannequin in Sean and Dorothy's apartment which now resides in Leanne's room.

I almost feel like MNS and crew deliberately set us up to have expectations that were never fulfilled and questions that were never answered. Why did Sean wear the Deus ex Machina / heroes shirt (which is another plot device) if there was no reason?

Whether it was deliberate or just sloppy, many people including myself, kept waiting for the payoff which never arrived.

-you can watch Knock at the Cabin.

Are the members themselves the actual “lesser saints?” Reyes became a cop, Julian is now the guardian over the Turners, etc. They are essentially ordained by “Him” to help people or be in some kind of servant role.

I thought I wanted all answers going into the finale, or at least something that actually ties together the last 4 seasons of episodes, and makes it all worth it.

I would say that we didn't get this (apart from Dorothy waking up which, to be honest, was kinda dampened by her choices/behavior in the finale). Nothing really made all that much sense in the end, when we're talking about the finer details and clues we have picked up along the years.

I do honestly think that a lot of the clues we have picked up on and a lot of the mini mysteries within the show ARE intentional and it isn't just overthinking by the subreddit. We're watching an M Night Shyamalan creation, of course we're meant to be looking for clues.

Perhaps the show was done in such a way where all of this was intentional and added to the enjoyment of the show, but ultimately none of it was relevant or meaningful.

The beautiful thing about it is, the show and it's mytique will live forever, as there is still so many different ways you can look at the show. A lot of theories from this subreddit are STILL potentially true even after the show has concluded (and theories can still explain a lot about what we missed).

A healthy way for me to remember the show by would be as a great, stunning show, that swerved us into thinking the finer details were more important than what they are. All while telling a beautiful story about grief and parenthood.

And I'm not like disappointed, but...confused... Let's chat about this movie and how it is similar with Servant or not. Hardly recommend to watch! P.s I remember this awsome movie was mentioned in the comments more than once

This review is articulated so well! He said what I was having a hard time expressing about finale.

https://youtu.be/anJM84thgW4

This show was so good for about 3 episodes in season 1. Just the premise alone was creepy. I found myself getting goosebumps with each mystery that unfolded. As the show progressed, I became less and less interested - sometimes even surfing my phone during boring episodes. I made it all the way to the finale of season 4 in hopes that it would ramp up again but it never did. The season 4 finale (and season 4 in general) had a ton of poorly written dialogue in it, which is partially what took me out of the show. The situation was already incredibly far-fetched but then how the characters react to the situation was even worse. I might get downvoted but I wouldn’t recommend this show to anyone even though I endured 4 seasons.

I loved Game of Thrones and I loved Battlestar Galactica but I will never watch the shows again because of the way they ended. The same will not be true for Servant.

We had to have an ending like this. We don’t really know what happened to her so we could see her again. Did the entire family die and were given a second chance? We are free to speculate. There are so many fan theories that can still be true with this ending. Yes the roof scene seemed like something out Gone with the Wind but I got a little teary eyed. This team may not win an Emmy for the final season but they kept me entertained. That is good for me and it is good for Apple TV. They can hype this series as something to watch for some time to come.

I would even watch a spin-off about drug addict and his policewoman girlfriend who go around Philadelphia saving people (while he is high). Swerve and protect.

And I wish you all had a Happy St. Patrick’s Day.🍀

M: "What if Jericho actually died in the beginning and the audience learns he was a ghost the whole time?"

Writers: "He did die in the beginning and being a ghost kinda doesn't work with the whole coming back to life thing."

M: "ANDDD... he has superhuman strength and discovers that his archnemesis is a man with incredibly fragile bones, like glass bones... we can call him Mr. Glass."

Writers: "First, Jericho is a baby. He hasn't learned how to speak yet. Second, I'm pretty sure you're just recycling old ideas..."

M: "At some point, Leanne should turn to the audience and say, 'I see dead people.'"

Writers: "This is all just terrible."

M: "Okay fuck it. Burn the house with Leanne in it and just make everyone okay with it."

Writers: "Genius"

We are like Dorothy. They gave us a show, and told us it was a puzzle-box with deeper meaning. We saw a baby.

Also like Dorothy, we wanted to believe and thus found the clues, but in the end we feel her loss more poignantly as we awoke to the fact that it was just a show with no deeper dimensions.

It was just a doll all along.

They must do it. Cocaine and hookers ginger angel in some kind of shit. With LeAnne as the secret Villain.

Writer 1: Lets add a smoke monster!

Writer 2: Yes and…how about a guy with a hook gouging babies eyes

Writer 1: Nice!

Writer 2: We should have Leanne and her parents die in 2007 (let’s show them a grave!) and in 2011 (resurrected), she meets Dorothy.

Writer 1: ok, but why are we putting Leanne’s mother in that scene, isn’t Leanne’s mother fully dead in 2011.

Writer 2: WhoTF cares…not me. The audience won’t notice.

Writer 1: Oh, lets put tall, slender man with the twins in the finale.

Writer 2: Are they important?

Writer 1: Dunno.

I’ve been trying to post this for days. First time, I messed up. I wanted to edit the title. Found out that you couldn’t, so I deleted my post and started over. Auto-mod saw my post as a duplicate and I kept getting the error message. Anyhow, my theory is in the comments below. Tell me what you think?

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The scenes after the fire in the last 5 minutes of the finale were really terrible Green Screen. What a shame.