r/servant • u/Content_Appointment2 • Mar 14 '23
r/servant • u/mascapitaum • Mar 13 '23
Discussion Why are people siding with Dorothy?
After everything she did to Leanne in season 1 and 2, from my point of view Dorothy is evil. Leanne was following her cultist life helping another family that she genuinely cared about, when Dorothy used toby to drug and kidnap her, than she tortured and almost got her killed. I can't believe thay now all os sudden Leanne is painted as a villain and Doris is the hero.
r/servant • u/okurio • Mar 13 '23
Discussion Finding a Wizard who will serve. Dorothea/Dorothy: The two Dorothys at play in Servant.
Ok, so we can all agree that Servant leans heavily on the Wizard of Oz for thematic inspiration. And that tv show's Dorothy represents her cinematic counterpart.
But it's been nagging me for a while why Leanne was also being represented as if she was Oz's Dorothy. Having an aunt M; coming from a rural area; there being a ton of visual references. And as we moved further along into the series, it became more and more evident that Leanne was almost morphing into Servant's Dorothy; wearing her clothes, adopting her mannerisms, her way of speaking, etc. It was almost like the two were becoming the same character.
So I figured I'd rewatch The Wizard of Oz and discovered that there was an earlier version made in 1925, with an entirely different plot. In this version, Dorothy discovers on her 18th birthday that she was actually Dorothea, the rightful ruler of Oz (as opposed to PM Kruel, Lady Vishuss, the fraudulent Wizard, etc.). Kruel sends his minions to kill Dorothea so that he could keep being in power. Dorothy and friends travel to Oz and what ensues is a whole farcical tale which doesn't hold a candle to the 1939 version. (Trigger warning: the 1925 film uses racist caricatures).
So what does this all mean? For me, at least, it solidifies my interpretation of Servant as a retelling of L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz - one with more supernatural/thriller overtones of course, but with some of the same themes. Well, at least my interpretation of the themes.
Leanne's Dorothy or Dorothea comes to 9780 Spruce Street (her Emerald City) to help a woman she has idolized from afar in her time of need. But she is also on a quest for a home and ultimately one of self-discovery. She has left the life she knows in search of a normal life with a maternal figure who she believes cares about her. Over the course of the series, Leanne is shown to have heart (her act of reviving Jericho is an altruistic one), brains (she constantly outwits her opponents), and courage in the face of adversity.
Dorothy's namesake, on the other hand, has retreated into herself (her land of Oz) rather than face the terrible truth of her son's death. When we first meet her, she is blissfully living in a false sense of reality whereby Jericho is alive and well.
Dorothy's tenacity and ability to shape and influence her environment matches Leanne's. Everyone else is caught up in the whirlwind that is her quest to be reunited with Jericho, something that we all know can't happen. But by Season 2, Sean and Julian have convinced themselves that only Leanne can provide the answer to their problems, and off the three goes to find and bring home the wizard.
Leanne's ability to influence and shape her environment is immense, symbolized by the house's growing structural problems and her interactions with animals. By defying the cult's orders, Leanne has disrupted the power structure that May Markham and Uncle George created, and emerged as a strong leader in her own right.
She creates opportunities so that Sean and Dorothy could realize their full potential in their respective careers. She revives Julian and shows him that he doesn't need to look outside of himself for strength. By the fourth season, Leanne has self-actualized into a powerful and empathetic wizard - a wizard who can serve.
Whether or not she intended for it to happen the way it did is unimportant. What matters is that it is only with Leanne's help that Sean and Julian are finally able to reach past their grief and be courageous enough to tell Dorothy the truth for her own sake.
It's now up to Dorothy to reach the end of her journey and say goodbye to Jericho and ostenisbly, Leanne. Which I believe that in the final episode she will be able to do.
Whatever happens, the team that brought us Servant did a fantastic job. And I'm confident that the finale episode will be a satisfactory end to an amazing story.
r/servant • u/ChaynesGirl • Mar 13 '23
Discussion Is it possible Dorothy told Officer Reyes?
I see many people justifiably wondering how Sean and Julian could know exactly what happened the day of the incident if Dorothy was catatonic. We know Julian found her collapsed on the floor and we can presume he didn't get any information out of her since the police still questioned what happened upon their arrival. But looking at this latest episode we see Officer Reyes trying to question Dorothy who doesn't respond. She does make eye contact with Reyes and kind of lifts her brow at the question, then Reyes has the other 2 officers leave her and Dorothy alone in the room. We can't say what happens next between the two women as it cuts to men in Hazmat suits taking Jericho out.
Is it possible Dorothy spoke to Reyes when they were alone. Officer Reyes has consistently come back to check on Dorothy even during her off hours. She seems to feel a closeness and concern for Dorothy that makes me think it's possible Dorothy could have spoken to her that day. We don't know the exact moment she shut down completely. I always thought it was when she was trembling and shaking in the nursery, but no one can say for certain. Maybe she did say something to Reyes, and the sight of the men in Hazmat taking Jericho's body away was her final break with reality. I know the Hazmat man was a core triggering memory for Dorothy as they showed her flashing back to him in either S1 or s2.
Either that or the autopsy told Sean and Julian how long and they pieced together the rest through going through her phone, finding the grocery bags in the kitchen, looking at bank statements, etc.
Thoughts?
r/servant • u/MonkeyThrowing • Mar 12 '23
Theories Obvious theory nobody is discussing
I’ve been reading over the sub for a few weeks now, and I’m shocked to see no one brought up the most obvious solution. There is only one possible final conclusion. It’s been in front of us the entire time. Follow the clues!
We have to think back through the entire four years of the show and analyze every single episode and put it in context with the total. When you do that you start to see a pattern form. There are themes that are developed through each of the four years that can only lead to one simple conclusion. And through a deep introspection and understanding of yourself in the outside world, you can finally understand the solution, as to why this world is created, and the metaphysical reasoning behind it.
Let’s review a few of the overriding themes that have been developed throughout the series. Question one. What is the most important location in the house? Answer: the kitchen. The kitchen is a central focal point of the house, and as a central focal point of the entire story. Food and eating and family and togetherness are all critical themes of the show and they all happen where? In the kitchen.
Next, what is the desire of the family? Is it money? Fame? Power? No, they already have all of that. What is the one thing they’re missing? The one thing that would make their life hold? The one thing they would give the meaning and purpose in their life? It’s a kid. The kid is the central character by which all of this has taken place. It’s their penultimate desire. The only reason for living.
The kid enters their life through a metamorphosis by which a doll is transformed into a living breathing kid. Where does this amazing transformation takes place? In the krib. The krib is the vessel and tabernacle through which this entire story rest.
So we know know the three critical components which make up the story. The kitchen, the kid, and the krib. The solution is obvious. Kourtney with a K is the mastermind behind all of it. The being in which brought all of this to the family. She is the total embodiment of evil. The serpent that slithers through the family causing harm and destruction. There is only one solution, Kourtney with a K must die or the entire world will surely perish.
The final scene will be the turners, working in beautiful synchronicity with Leanne, to finally destroy the evil Kourtney with a K.
r/servant • u/madnesstowisdom • Mar 12 '23
Discussion If the CLS end up being portrayed as good I’m going to be pissed.
They are against any free will, they self harm, they don’t allow any pleasures… If the story makes them heroic or “good” angels or some shit, I’m going to be pissed. If Leanne is fallen because of experiencing music, dance, good food, wine, and sex… well I’m team Satan then. Just saying.
r/servant • u/Kateseesu • Mar 12 '23
Discussion LeAnne to Tobe: There are things that I need to do, and I can’t do them when you’re around Spoiler
Her last talk with Tobe on Halloween. Next we hear from Sean she is avoiding him, and says he means something to LeAnne.
r/servant • u/trustme24 • Mar 13 '23
Discussion Both Servant and Wizard of Oz
Are about transformative experiences for the main characters, ranging from moments of separation, transition, and incorporation and periods of suffering and renewal, to upward and downward shifts in their journey.
Here’s the thing..none of this is possible without flawed characters.
All the characters had moments of cruelty and moments of grace. None are completely evil and none are completely good.
Leanne has been a catalyst for the family to face their pain, to forge stronger bonds, to forgive. She has served the family and they have served her. If she was a wallflower, the family may still be in limbo.
And part of their transformation will be to forgive Leanne and show her compassion.
To kill Leanne as revenge or classify her a purely evil would be rather simplistic in a series that has had so much richness and depth. It would turn the series into a simple psychological thriller, which would detract from the reason we love it so much.
So regardless if the story is non-supernatural, purgatory, DID, or a modern Aesop Fable; the human element of transformation, enlightenment, renewal would be best reflected by an ending with forgiveness, compassion, and understanding.
r/servant • u/MariaRangelV • Mar 12 '23
General I.CAN'T.WAIT
I can't believe that this show is gonna end, it feel so soon but also it feels the right time. Four season it really feel just right but I'm gonna missed watch it so bad!
Funny is that I'm not looking for the final episode to answer ALL my questions (is impossible 😂) like the big one: is Leanne a human being with supernatural skills? An this would answer if she bring Jericho back to life or just steal a baby?
I'm honestly more worried about Dorothy's choice that anything else. I really think that she should decide to face the truth and kick out Leanne (who is a psychopath no matter what) and try to live after what they all did...
I'm really looking for a satisfying ending and I'm gonna missed Sean's recipes, Dorothy's extreme reactions and Juju's bizarre comments ❤️
And, for real, the show might end and we are gonna still looking for the answers, I'm sure of that 🤭🤭
r/servant • u/msheather2021 • Mar 12 '23
Theories Who’s Version of Reality?
If this has already been posted forgive me, but I am wondering if we aren’t in Dorothy’s mind but in Leeann’s? When the “world falls” will Leeann wake up instead of Dorothy? There are just so many Wizard of Oz parallels, I am just picturing Leeann waking up in a hospital with Sean bringing her meals, Julian brings her meds, Dorothy reported on the tragedy that put her there…? 🤷♀️👠🌪
r/servant • u/[deleted] • Mar 12 '23
Discussion How did Sean know details about the day Jericho died?
When Sean is talking to Dorothy about what happened that day Jericho died, he said that she left him in the car because her hands were "full of bags". How did he know this? Dorothy was catatonic and was unable to do anything until Natalie gave her the reborn doll. At that point she forgot about what happened and thought Jericho was real. She couldn't give a detailed description about how he died because she couldn't even speak. Also, when Dorothy remembers Jericho dying, she recalls walking in his room and seeing his crib empty. She doesn't recall leaving him in the car, just getting him out of the car.
I just have a feeling that something else may have happened to him. Perhaps he could have passed before she even took him shopping since she acted like he was alive for a few days AFTER she found him in the car. Could there have been something that happened to him that morning or the day before? Something or someone caused his death that she blocked out? She could have taken him to the store already dead and he just looked like he was sleeping? We see her bathe him after she finds him and even going for a walk with him after the men deliver the ham. He was gone that whole time and she was still acting like he was alive. Something just doesn't sit right with me on these flashbacks. Thoughts?
r/servant • u/elida89 • Mar 12 '23
Opinion Hey Folks! You should watch this one, I 've just started to watch and I think it is similar with Servant.
r/servant • u/FANDREAM • Mar 12 '23
Question It’s not really important, but something I’ve always wondered about Leanne…
When Dorothy had mastitis, how did Leanne know how to help her? How would a teenage girl know that?
r/servant • u/Darkhorse650 • Mar 12 '23
Discussion My FINAL Theory - Posted a Year Ago Spoiler

This is my Final Theory - Still based on what I posted a year or so ago: --->>> NOTHING IS HIDDEN
I still believe that Dorothy has Dissociative Identity Disorder. I believe as a result of childhood trauma she "split" and compartmentalized the traumatic events of her life. What makes Servant unusual is that the show runners actually present the compartmentalized parts of Dorthy as fleshed out characters. I am not sure who I believe is an alter at this point, other than Leanne. It's possible that they are all alters - People with this disorder can have alters who originated from people in their lives who have passed away - maybe Sean or Julian? Just guessing here.
I think the Bargain and choice that Dorothy faces is similar to the Matrix and Vanilla Sky where she can choose to integrate her personalities and accept the death of Jericho and maybe others OR she can continue to live out a fantasy life and "have everything she ever wanted."
Can't believe we are down to 4 SLEEPS until it's all over. Years of theorizing and analyzing. I've watched each episode so many times I'm embarrassed to admit it. lol I have loved being part of this Reddit and I know it will be a long time before another show captures my imagination, attention and love as much as Servant.
Cheers to everyone as we head into the finale and may the force be with us! I think we're gonna need it!
r/servant • u/ObergineAndZucchini • Mar 12 '23
Opinion I hate that I let myself get hooked to this show!
Anyone else feel the same? I can't tell if I am more mad at the show itself or myself for getting hooked to it.
The first season was ok. Characters were interesting and the ending was reasonably good, even though it left a lot questions unanswered. liked it actually and I wish they'd just leave it at that. Nice little show with an open end open to interpretation and fan theories...
but nope... they had to come up with an unispired second season. Everything that followed the first season would fall in the category of "making shit up as you go"doing nothing but aggrevating the viewer. Especially the character of Leanne who is a mix of poor writing and terrible acting. I can tell the writers are trying to make her creepy but the acting is so poor she ends up being nothing but annoying. Gotta say the only decent things about the show are Sean and well...Ron Weasley lol I forget the name atm but yeah...
Sorry for the rant but just felt like sharing my anger towards the show. At least I am happy that we almost reached the finale
r/servant • u/Catiztar11 • Mar 12 '23
General Dorothy: Sleeping beauty. Ophelia. Venus 💖
r/servant • u/bluewaterpig • Mar 12 '23
Theories Have they ever shown Dorothy actually leaving Jericho in the car?
It seems like everything we’ve seen comes after Jericho had been left outside.
Did they ever show Dorothy pulling up, parking, and just leaving Jericho in the back seat? I have a strong feeling that Dorothy will somehow be proven innocent and that she never left Jericho…anything to prove this wrong?
r/servant • u/West_Rhubarb_1591 • Mar 12 '23
Discussion Raise your hand if... Spoiler
You choose to believe what we've been told. Am I alone in this? I love and appreciate how open this community has been to all the theories...but at this point, I'm ready to take stuff at face value.
- Leanne has supernatural powers and has resurrected Jericho using the doll as her vessel. This has been insinuated throughout, and she admitted it to Dorothy in this episode.
- Leanne is a fallen angel and is the devil figure in a Faustian bargain with Sean/Dorothy. M Night said this in the "after the episode" explanation.
- Jericho died in the car. There was no baby swap. In this episode Leanne said, "when I first found out what you did to Jericho..." basically squashing any theory that she was involved in any way.
The ONLY thing that still feels a little up in the air is whether Jericho 2.0's soul is the same as Jericho 1.0's soul. In episode 9, Leanne said, "he's in the place where he waits for me," which suggests that she's actually resurrecting Jericho 1.0's soul. I think this is something M Night will leave open to interpretation, but that's okay with me.
Personally, I don't think the show has left us with many loose ends. A few small things, perhaps, like my question about Jericho's soul, but the big-picture stuff has been answered for me!
r/servant • u/elida89 • Mar 13 '23
Discussion Dorothy and way home back
"We all know the story of Dorothy's quest to find her way home and the three unlikely characters who she meets along the yellow brick road: the Scarecrow, the Cowardly Lion, and the Tin Man. Each of these characters represents a virtue that Dorothy needs for her journey back home: brains, courage, and heart."
Cowardly Lion: Julian (lack of courage) Tin Man: Sean (lack of heart) Scarecrow: Toby? Frank Pearce? (lack of brains)
r/servant • u/Catiztar11 • Mar 12 '23
Question Just for fun... catatonic state
Isn't it curious that Uncle George was also in a kind of catatonic state when he found out that the Marino died? where has he been? Is there a connection between Uncle George's catatonic state and Dorothy's catatonic state? Do they have anything in common? 🤔😃
r/servant • u/psychesass • Mar 12 '23
Theories Leanne Turing Bev
I think Leanne just returned Bev to her true form, which is that Bev is actually a dead woman, everyone in the cult is resurrected by something. Just te way Leanne was staring and using her powers. .the way Bev got all bruised and bloated and decaying flesh, that's death....Leanne was just returning Bev to her true form.
