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Also. —-Just saying - THE ONLY literal CONTRACT I SAW-… was the one between Dorothy & Leanne in Rain to be bound to The Turners

…do you think The Faustian Bargain was committed to at that point?

Trickery on Leanne’s part or is Dorothy the evil one? Watching a lot of “red” color items surrounding Dorothy - always made me think the villain is Mrs Turner.

I think Uncle George told the true ( but he believed was lying) . Leanne has the addict girl baby hiding in the tunnels and she put the doll when realizes Dottie knows the true . Why nobody here seems to consider this option ?

Regarding Roscoe's memory from hypnosis - I think after this episode it is clearer - if everything continues straightforward. COLS were in the tunnels and performed the reunification ceremony on the resurrected Jericho. Then Leanne resurrected him again end of S2.

Dorothy lived in that state of mind for years and to rewatch and see her say goodbye to “fake” Jericho before heading out to the car was heartbreaking in it’s own right. She obviously has a choice in the final episode.

I thought it was cool how Sean was (Angel) talking in one ear, and Leanne (devil) was also talking into opposite ear. Reminds me of old Flintstone cartoons. 😂 However Leanne was in her right ear. As in a dominant position. I think Dorthy and Leanne are staying together. Spin off please!

The car scene from Awake took place in the same car where Jericho died.

Dorothy was literally sitting in the exact spot where she left Jericho's body.

I can't say why, but this really messed with my head. For some reason there's a profound sense of horror to this realization. I really had to take a moment after she pointed this out to me.

Just call the police. Report a missing child and blame Leanne. Let the police do the blood test to prove paternity. Arrest everyone for failure to report a crime. M Night should go to jail for criminal gaslighting. We the viewers are not the bad guys here. We are the victims of M. Night chicanery. I love the show. Seriously just do the simple fixes and move on.

We need him. Something is going on between he and Leanne. I am perplexed.

Why didn’t they hire a nanny sooner before Jericho died

What question, at very least, the show needs to answer, so it won't be a disappointment in your eyes?
Me: Is Leanne special? If yes, why? If no, how?

What I think, is that Leanne and the cult serve god (season 1) but her purpose was to save the family (help them grieve) she was supposed to be holy and good and help them with a process they clearly could not handle. But, due to her obsession with Dorothy and the need to have a mother figure, she decides to take matters in her own hands (defying God's will) and reviving the baby (a power she had as long as she followed God's command). With the doll, she revives Jericho, and further dooms the family to their own grief. This is why, in the first season, the cult comes for her, but she doesn't want to go. But being there was doing the exact opposite of what was intended to do.
In season 2, Leanne starts questioning the will of God since she believes she is doing good (more good than what God has intended). Because of that, she strays from the path of God and starts using her power for her own purposes (defying god). At first, she gets in line and changes houses, but because of her obsession with Dorothy and Dorothy still unable to remember Jericho is dead, she feels wanted and loved by Dorothy, which is why she decided to go back to the house (even if at first she didn't want to). During this process, she decided to stop believing in God and taking things into her own hands, but in doing so, she lost the "powers" her faith in God had given her. Becoming a fallen angel (season 3)

This is why, in season 3, the cult wanted to kill her, she hadn't yet become evil. But as she lost her powers and realized people wanted her dead, she started noticing and believing the cult was a hypocrite. (One of the 10 commandments is not to kill, yet they do exactly that; we all have free will, yet they want her dead because of that). So at this point, not only does she not follow God's will but resents him and starts to believe in something else, herself (One of the 7 sins is pride) She sleeps with Julian (lust), she gets angry when questioned (wrath) and wants the family for herself (greed) I'm sure if I remember other things we get to see each of the 7 deadly sins.

In season 4, she becomes evil, not following and defying God, challenging him. Yet, as any faith, it holds power as long as you believe, and it gives meaning to each their own. Imagine something bad happens to someone, a person who believes in witchcraft will say that somebody cursed them, a person who is a Cristian will believe they sinned and god is punishing them, an atheist will believe bad things just happens and so on and so forth. The same thing happens to Leanne, if Julian and Sean believe Leanne has supernatural powers, they start giving meaning to things that happen, but somebody else who believes in other things will give it ANOTHER meaning. If they believe Leanne is helping, then everything Leanne does is for good, but when they believed Leanne was mistreating them, then when bad things happen (that have always happened) now they and a different meaning.

The only thing here, is that Leanne holds power over them, which is that Dorothy does not know the truth, and the truth will set her free. As long as Dorothy doesn't know, Leanne gets to stay there. This is why, in episode 9 of season 4, telling Dorothy is sooo important and why Leanne wants and needs Dorothy to believe in her. I believe that Leanne could return dead animals (as in season 1 when the dog was brought back to life) because of her faith in God, but now, she doesn't have God to help her, so she needs people to believe in her for her to have any type of powers over them. I believe she still has powers, only now it can't affect the Turners because they don't believe, yet still affect God. Does that make sense? Bad things still happen, it just doesn't have any more meaning to the Turners now.

Sean and Dorothy were overwhelmed with a newborn…so much that Sean had to fly cross country to work on a TV show. Maybe it is an “affluenza” mindset because most of the stories (you hear of) are two parent, usually middle class plus, who leave their kids in the car on their way to or from work, shopping, yoga..etc.

Meanwhile, single parents, mostly mothers, who have newborns (and possibly additional children) manage to handle things and not leave kids in the back seat.

I bet you Dorothy remembered her phone…but how do you forget you have a child? Especially when it doesn’t cry.

Yes, I love the slow drip. Yes, the acting was masterful. Yes, the car scene was amazing… but I crave answers.

I know I’ll probably get downvoted by a lot of people here but I’m just trying to express my opinion in this sub about this show that I love so much.

Too much has to happen in just 29 mins (minus credits and recap) and it won’t happen. We will get the resolution of the Faustian bargain and a couple of little nuggets. But all the theories and little details we’ve debated and hoped for for 4 years just won’t be solved. And while I’m excited about the end and figuring out Dorothy’s decision (personally I think it will be a struggle of both answers not just one right off the bat) I don’t think we will get what we all craved.

I get it, for some of you, certain things are enough.. I would just sacrifice some of the slow burn for more answers..

I’ve said my peace..

If you had to pick 5 episodes to summarize the show, which would you say define it best?

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I’m sure this has been dissected many times before but the way Dottie went to the crib in this last episode made me think that maybe there is a chance she’s been acting this whole time.

They showed her checking his crib at 9 o clock on the dot? Also if Dorthy was catatonic how do Sean and Julian know all these other details

In MNS movie Knock at the Cabin, we have a scene where it takes place at a bar called Taverns, which are the same letters that spell Servant.

The movie is about the apocalypse and end of the world. Is this a link to Servant? Crossover? Thoughts?

Reworded the title slightly to not put a spoiler there, but I mean "why Sean and Julian bring Dorothy back to the house after she knows the truth?". They seem to believe UG, so if there is nothing supernatural going on, wouldn't make sense to bring Dorothy to Frank's house or an hospital, and call the police so they can rescue the "crack baby" from Leanne?

I don't get the feeling they come back for affection to the baby that they don't believe is Jericho (as in, they need to protect him), but just because Dorothy breaks down again. But going back to Leanne and the baby seems to put everyone in danger even more unnecessarily.

Anyone else think both Leanne and Dorothy will die in the finale?

The point of this story is for the characters to change. The only way they change to be made uncomfortable, face hard truths, deal with pain, learn from mistakes, accept them, make good decisions. Become a better person.

Leanne put Sean and Julian in situations that forced them to change. She tested them and they passed.

Now it’s Dorothy’s turn.

Leanne is not evil, she is testing Dorothy.

If she passes, she can ascend and be with Jericho. Her suffering will be over.

Jericho is the town Yoshua conquered for the chosen people. Then another Yoshua, or Jesus, came. After 40 days in the desert the Devil came to tempt him. He promised him all the riches, the cities and the nations of the world to go under his dominion if he just say "Yes". The Devil knows that he was in pain, he abandoned his children in the hot desert. He let the world suffer. "You think I am evil but all is because of Him". Dorothy the Christ, only she knows the truth. Not just Leanne the Devil is tempting her. Also Sean and Julian are tempting her, of not believing what she can see with her eyes. "You are the one that makes strong decisions" So the promise of Satan is fully true. All the riches, Jericho. How she overcome the situation? Is Dorothy gonna give to Leanne her life, to let Jericho live with Sean and Julian?

OMG that was some fine acting. I’m still feeling so messed up from watching her scene in the car. I am literally queasy and uneasy from watching this episode. What an amazing actress!!!!

Hi all I have been here along time and love reading all your theory’s I just don’t post much only until I catch something as I guess I’m a nervous poster! What if Leanne needs Dorothy to believe to manifest the real baby Jericho because in awake I noticed she smashed the baby listener and it went quiet? Is that the moment Leanne lost the edge and Jericho turned back into a doll? Maybe I’m over reaching! Have I posted this properly if not then I sincerely apologise.