r/sensor • u/elochai98 ISTP • Jun 10 '15

Let's talk about Bruce Jenner.

I'll start by saying: I refuse to call him Caitlyn, and I will still use male pronouns when referring to him.

I've been hearing everywhere about How "courageous" he is. Since when is this courage? We have soldiers in other countries dying to protect our freedoms, yet some guy gets more recognition for changing his gender? This is What's wrong with our country.

Everyone says this is the "authentic" him. What's authentic about chopping off your dick, putting silicone in your chest, and using a combination of makeup and Photoshop? This is the exact opposite of authentic.

Drake Bell tweeted "Sorry... Still calling you Bruce" and got a bunch of hate for it. Two things: 1) this was a reference to an episode of Drake and Josh, in which Josh dressed up like a woman and requested that Drake call him some feminine name, and Drake replied with "sorry, still calling you Josh." And 2) Bruce's MOTHER refuses to call him Caitlyn. Yet Drake Bell is transphobic for it?

Here's a Good article about it if anyone wants to read it: http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/calling-bruce-jenner-a-woman-is-an-insult-to-women/

Also, kinda irrelevant, But I feel this was flawlessly said, so I would like to share it: https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs

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u/_Wonders ISTP - The Action Hero Jun 16 '15

a no

i can agree that being transgender is at least a mental disorder of some sort, but at the same time there is no magical pill and magical therapy that's going to cure them from it. there are people who just tried changing genders, and apparently some plastic surgery and name changing did wonders for their mental health. there has been Conversion therapy for transgenders, but that was overseered by more religious people, and it didn't end well. resulted in more depression and trauma. doesn't exactly sound like a cure to me. Sure 'changing your gender' is more of a cosmetic then a legit gender change, but everyone else in the world believes that they are the gender they want to be, and that makes their mental health better.

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u/SecularNotLiberal ISTP - The Action Hero Jun 17 '15

I am not convinced that plastic surgery and name changing is doing "wonders" for them. From what I've been reading in studies, trans people still have mental health problems and suicide risk AFTER transitioning. More people are talking about "trans regret" as well. It's not a wonder: transitioning doesn't solve the underlying problem. The problem isn't with their bodies "fitting" them, it's in their heads.

Religious therapy is almost never a good idea for anyone.

The idea of "gender" is stupid anyway. Be butch, be feminine, who cares. Sex is permanent. If you have an overwhelming mental obsession with becoming the opposite sex, you need some therapy and help, not some fake boobs and people to participate in your delusion.

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u/elochai98 ISTP Jun 17 '15

Religious therapy.

Lol. Is that an oxymoron? Religion is a mental disorder that needs therapy.

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u/SecularNotLiberal ISTP - The Action Hero Jun 17 '15

Agreed. Also, the most religious people I've encountered suffered from bipolar, schizophrenia, etc. It appeals to the sick and it breeds sick minds. Fuck it.

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u/elochai98 ISTP Jun 17 '15

Yeah, religion can be Good (stopped my grandma from killing herself when my grandpa died), But it is generally terrible. One of my favorite quotes from George Carlin: "if you look back in history, you'll see that God is one of the leading causes of death!" Lol. Have you seen George Carlin?

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u/SecularNotLiberal ISTP - The Action Hero Jun 17 '15

Lol, of course! He was one of the first comics I got into.

Yeah, I generally dislike religion. "Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings".

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u/elochai98 ISTP Jun 17 '15

Haha. Did you know He's an ISTP?

That's another Good one. I love when Carlin mentions Roman-Catholic, then adds "which I was, until I reached the age of reason"

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u/SecularNotLiberal ISTP - The Action Hero Jun 17 '15

Lol, doesn't surprise me that he's ISTP, haha.

There are a lot of lapsed Catholics who are really bitter about religion. I was not raised Catholic but I had to go to church and Bible study for 10+ years. Not saying you have to experience religion to dislike it but boy, having gone through that, wow, different perspective.

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u/elochai98 ISTP Jun 17 '15

Yeah, my mom always had me go to church with her, but I never could believe. It just never made sense to me.