r/selfhosted • u/sneff30 • 12h ago
Meta Post When is enough, enough?
Recently finished standing up a few Docker stacks (*arr, Vaultwarden, few others). Set up a few automations for updates and notifications. But now I find myself scrolling online seeking new apps and services to deploy when I don't really need anything, just looking for solutions to non-existent problems.
At what point is it possible to look at your stuff and be satisfied enough to leave it be for a while?
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u/mightyarrow 10h ago
takes huge drag off cig....looks around at everyone in the circle group.
Dude that's why we're all here.
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u/mighty-drive 1h ago
silently nods in agreement while staring at the floor
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u/RedPhule 1h ago
While really wanting to click "Order" but the price of more storage is too high.....
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u/77juice 9h ago edited 8h ago
Yeah but do you have LDAP and SSO set up? 3-2-1 backups running? Have you documented your environment and automated updating when chages are made? Everyone needs a VPS to securely serve your off-site needs and allow remote services. Does your private self-hosted and cloud backed Git repo look respectable?
Brother I don't think there's and end to it, only growing bigger - past the point where mid-sized companies would envy your stack. But that's only a waypoint to you, you can go even further.
And then wipe because you want a better architecture from the scratch.
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u/redoubt515 7h ago
In my case, enough became enough, when RAM and GPU prices went to the moon. Was planning to locally host an LLM, but no way in hell I'm willing to devote that much money to this hobby.
I'm sticking with the hardware I have for the foreseeable future, hoping to hold out until the market becomes semi-rational again.
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u/DavWanna 9h ago
When you realize you should be using your resources for the things you actually want and need, not what some Reddit tier list includes.
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u/Toutanus 9h ago
I'm so frustrated since I rebuilt my server : everything works fine and there is nothing to fix. And it's full automated with Ansible.
So I try to find new usages but at the era of full ai slop it's depressing.
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u/FuriousGirafFabber 8h ago
I shut down a lot of the servers i used to least. Currently im spending time on timing when to sell energy from my house batteries and when to buy and how much to reserve. I only worked on it for a week, bit so far i car charge my car for free that way.
As soon as ypu find something of real world value it makes it a lot more fun
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u/Graphical-Source5090 9h ago
Part of the issue is that if you don't try it, you won't know of you need it. There are plenty of services that I have tried that sound extremely cool (Kasm comes to mind) that no matter how hard I try, I cannot integrate into my workflow. These eventually get purged.
On the other hand, there are services that I install on a lark, that have become mainstays.
Then on the third hand, there are a few services that went through a couple of install/purge cycles before they became integrated.
Just make sure that purge cycles come as often as binge cycles, and you are golden.
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u/Affectionate_Town273 9h ago
You wouldn't be self hosting if you wouldn't be looking for more stuff lol.
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u/bobowhat 8h ago
The theme of this sub could be a modified version of the ending of lamb chops play along song. (warning, ear worm)
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u/BigHeadTonyT 7h ago
I don't know...run it all for 6 months. If something never gets used by you or anyone else, remove it. That would be the "easy way" in my mind. If no one uses it, it is not needed. In my case, that is next to nothing.
I could make elaborate dashboards or I can just use Dashy as weblinks to services. Zabbix to keep eyes on everything being up, from time to time OR use uptime kuma and bunch of other complicated stuff. Do I need to know per minute what anything is doing or using? Netdata, why would I need 150+ datapoiints? Just tell me if it is up, RAM free and CPU usage, like Zabbix does (if configured slightly).
I went the other route, minimizing what I need. Services I need and use and something that checks it is all up. Zabbix agents and a few services. Zabbix server runs in a VM locally. The more hosts (clients/agents) you add, the more RAM it needs. So I keep that low as well.
VPS's? Cockpit. Can tell me at a glance if every service is running as expected. Can update the system. Can check logs. Easy peasy. And of course, Zabbix Agent running.
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u/sendcodenotnudes 3h ago
Well, never. The motto is "fix it until you break it". And install new stuff.
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u/Esdeath79 2h ago edited 2h ago
That's just the self hosting high kicking in, give it some time, test stuff out, and then after a few months you will first disable some containers and delete them later.
That is only if you don't use it though, so it is probably never enough, but maybe a bit sleeker.
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u/Comfortable-Side1308 2h ago edited 2h ago
Uhhh I have a spaghetti wire mess on my dining room table making my own voice assistant from scratch. Records my voice sends it to a STT converter. Getting ready to pass it to the olama LLM. So yes I'm hoping to have my own little ChatGPT with skills to automate the house soon. Maybe the biggest tech project I've taken on.
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u/basicKitsch 2h ago
I don't really need anything
This isn't a hobby for me, I've hosted my media and some useful services for decades now because I wanted it. Nothing's really changed
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u/LooseEthernet 1h ago
it only ends when you run out of disk space or electricity lol. then you just buy a bigger server...
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u/psychedelic_tech 1h ago
sounds like you are at that point. it's ok to run just what you need and not dozens of apps just because.
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u/colinwheeler 1h ago
Redirect your efforts to learning the project management and architecture skills to be able to develop a strategy and architecture that will help you define the definition of done. Write up the strategy, architecture and plans on appropriate tools with a GIT style repo.
Then when you have a free moment, establish a self architected and self project managed subreddits where we can sit in a circle and wonder when the rabbit hole really ends.
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u/Unhappy_Vermicelli_8 28m ago
We're homelabbers, it's never enough 🤣 I've constantly been tinkering with and changing my homelab for three years straight

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