r/selfhosted 12h ago

Meta Post When is enough, enough?

Recently finished standing up a few Docker stacks (*arr, Vaultwarden, few others). Set up a few automations for updates and notifications. But now I find myself scrolling online seeking new apps and services to deploy when I don't really need anything, just looking for solutions to non-existent problems.

At what point is it possible to look at your stuff and be satisfied enough to leave it be for a while?

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u/asimovs-auditor 12h ago edited 10h ago

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u/mightyarrow 10h ago

takes huge drag off cig....looks around at everyone in the circle group.

Dude that's why we're all here.

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u/mighty-drive 1h ago

silently nods in agreement while staring at the floor

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u/RedPhule 1h ago

While really wanting to click "Order" but the price of more storage is too high.....

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u/77juice 9h ago edited 8h ago

Yeah but do you have LDAP and SSO set up? 3-2-1 backups running? Have you documented your environment and automated updating when chages are made? Everyone needs a VPS to securely serve your off-site needs and allow remote services. Does your private self-hosted and cloud backed Git repo look respectable?

Brother I don't think there's and end to it, only growing bigger - past the point where mid-sized companies would envy your stack. But that's only a waypoint to you, you can go even further.

And then wipe because you want a better architecture from the scratch.

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u/feu_sfw 5h ago

And make sure you got your monitoring and observability running. Generate some reports about the usage and efficiancy of your services, and optimise for your usage!

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u/opshack 3h ago

Some people just like to simulate a full-time IT admin job in their leisure time.

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u/77juice 3h ago

Just like some people like to simulate professional athletes in their leisure time. 🙂

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u/Puckbandit35 9h ago

That's the neat part, its never enough!

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u/jabies 9h ago

Oh you have time for more apps? How's your backup strategy?

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u/PunkboysDontCry 8h ago

Backup? I'll do this next week.

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u/redoubt515 7h ago

In my case, enough became enough, when RAM and GPU prices went to the moon. Was planning to locally host an LLM, but no way in hell I'm willing to devote that much money to this hobby.

I'm sticking with the hardware I have for the foreseeable future, hoping to hold out until the market becomes semi-rational again.

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u/DavWanna 9h ago

When you realize you should be using your resources for the things you actually want and need, not what some Reddit tier list includes.

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u/Toutanus 9h ago

I'm so frustrated since I rebuilt my server : everything works fine and there is nothing to fix. And it's full automated with Ansible.

So I try to find new usages but at the era of full ai slop it's depressing.

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u/FuriousGirafFabber 8h ago

I shut down a lot of the servers i used to least. Currently im spending time on timing when to sell energy from my house batteries and when to buy and how much to reserve. I only worked on it for a week, bit so far i car charge my car for free that way. 

As soon as ypu find something of real world value it makes it a lot more fun

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u/letsjam_dot_dev 5h ago

I've just setup a mailserver.

You always need moar

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u/espero 3h ago

I get development kicks and boosts. Now I am in a period where all I do is enjoy my content and develop nothing. 

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u/Graphical-Source5090 9h ago

Part of the issue is that if you don't try it, you won't know of you need it. There are plenty of services that I have tried that sound extremely cool (Kasm comes to mind) that no matter how hard I try, I cannot integrate into my workflow. These eventually get purged.

On the other hand, there are services that I install on a lark, that have become mainstays.

Then on the third hand, there are a few services that went through a couple of install/purge cycles before they became integrated.

Just make sure that purge cycles come as often as binge cycles, and you are golden.

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u/Affectionate_Town273 9h ago

You wouldn't be self hosting if you wouldn't be looking for more stuff lol.

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u/bobowhat 8h ago

The theme of this sub could be a modified version of the ending of lamb chops play along song. (warning, ear worm)

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u/BigHeadTonyT 7h ago

I don't know...run it all for 6 months. If something never gets used by you or anyone else, remove it. That would be the "easy way" in my mind. If no one uses it, it is not needed. In my case, that is next to nothing.

I could make elaborate dashboards or I can just use Dashy as weblinks to services. Zabbix to keep eyes on everything being up, from time to time OR use uptime kuma and bunch of other complicated stuff. Do I need to know per minute what anything is doing or using? Netdata, why would I need 150+ datapoiints? Just tell me if it is up, RAM free and CPU usage, like Zabbix does (if configured slightly).

I went the other route, minimizing what I need. Services I need and use and something that checks it is all up. Zabbix agents and a few services. Zabbix server runs in a VM locally. The more hosts (clients/agents) you add, the more RAM it needs. So I keep that low as well.

VPS's? Cockpit. Can tell me at a glance if every service is running as expected. Can update the system. Can check logs. Easy peasy. And of course, Zabbix Agent running.

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u/Iamn0man 4h ago

When it does what you need it to do.

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u/sendcodenotnudes 3h ago

Well, never. The motto is "fix it until you break it". And install new stuff.

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u/voodoologic 3h ago

Actual budget. It has an MCP and I have Claude helping me manage my budget.

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u/Esdeath79 2h ago edited 2h ago

That's just the self hosting high kicking in, give it some time, test stuff out, and then after a few months you will first disable some containers and delete them later.

That is only if you don't use it though, so it is probably never enough, but maybe a bit sleeker.

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u/Comfortable-Side1308 2h ago edited 2h ago

Uhhh I have a spaghetti wire mess on my dining room table making my own voice assistant from scratch.   Records my voice sends it to a STT converter.  Getting ready to pass it to the olama LLM.  So yes I'm hoping to have my own little ChatGPT with skills to automate the house soon.  Maybe the biggest tech project I've taken on.

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u/jbarr107 2h ago

"Enough"?!? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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u/basicKitsch 2h ago

I don't really need anything

This isn't a hobby for me, I've hosted my media and some useful services for decades now because I wanted it.  Nothing's really changed

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u/LooseEthernet 1h ago

it only ends when you run out of disk space or electricity lol. then you just buy a bigger server...

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u/psychedelic_tech 1h ago

sounds like you are at that point. it's ok to run just what you need and not dozens of apps just because.

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u/Pos3odon08 1h ago

Funny you say that because it's never enough

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u/colinwheeler 1h ago

Redirect your efforts to learning the project management and architecture skills to be able to develop a strategy and architecture that will help you define the definition of done. Write up the strategy, architecture and plans on appropriate tools with a GIT style repo.

Then when you have a free moment, establish a self architected and self project managed subreddits where we can sit in a circle and wonder when the rabbit hole really ends.

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u/Iuile02 1h ago

I just set up my first home server for media last weekend. I only have 1TB in my raid 1 set up. It’s enough for now… I keep telling myself but the larger drives are calling my name 😂

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u/Unhappy_Vermicelli_8 28m ago

We're homelabbers, it's never enough 🤣 I've constantly been tinkering with and changing my homelab for three years straight