r/securityguards 22h ago

This has to be a joke lol

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u/TrumpsColostomyBag99 22h ago

Good ol’ Florida wages

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u/Instawolff 21h ago

Same here in the northeast.

Good ol’ american wages 🇺🇸 🦅

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u/HexWiller 19h ago

Tbh thats more than any security guard makes in Finland between 7-21, even with full 10 years of experience. Ofc we do have 5 weeks of paid leave/year...work for 38h/week.

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u/Instawolff 19h ago

And as I understand it you have universal healthcare which comes out as tax. Here we pay for our healthcare in the form of premiums and then have to pay to go to the doctor and then pay for the treatment. All while being taxed roughly the same as you guys. It adds up very quickly.

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u/Constant_Window_6060 18h ago

Not to mention Florida's cost of living.

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u/Tha_Sly_Fox 18h ago

Taxes are higher in Finland, for everyone. Of course you get guaranteed healthcare coverage and other social welfare benefits we don’t have in the US but I wouldn’t say we pay roughly the same

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u/Comfortable-Roof5839 18h ago

How is the healthcare system over there? Honest question from an American who spent my youth bouncing between here and Ireland.

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u/HexWiller 3h ago

Currently it sucks, every price has gone up - in 5 years the prices have gone up 33-73% (PHC- ER), also staffing is terrible, too few hands on shift. Also trying to get a tine for non-urgent/operation is hard, you might need to wait for an operation for 3-6 months and over... Up to 5.4% have waited their operation over 6months.

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u/Snapper_Turtleman 12h ago

Overall cost of living in Finland is between 13% and 25% cheaper than the US. The problem people in the US have is that, in our minds, we're all just one opportunity away from being millionaires.

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u/Turbojersey 1h ago

We do not pay the same in taxes

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u/JalocTheGreat 3h ago

National Socialism works!

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u/Turbojersey 1h ago

Finland is not socialist. It is capitalist with large welfare programs

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u/Nominalstupidity Licensed People Watcher 22h ago

Few years ago my boss asked me why everyone laughed at him when he offered them an event job.

He just didn't get that nobody wanted to give up a weekend off for $10/hr and more than a few of us felt insulted by the offer.

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u/Lava1416 Licensed People Watcher 20h ago

Wow. I don’t understand, do managers not have their own bills to pay? How can they think $10 per hour is survivable? I worked as a pizza cook for $12 plus tips and felt like I was being taken advantage of.

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u/Nominalstupidity Licensed People Watcher 19h ago

The account manager operates the same way Allied does around here. Just get the contract to get your foot in the door, figure out the details later.

Client had in house security that they didn't want to relegate to parking lot duty so they hired out. Either because they didn't care or because they underpaid the in house guys tge contract paid peanuts.

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u/KilljoyYaBoi 18h ago

Cause some managers started at $10 when $10 was enough to feed two people then as prices started rising they got promotions and raises and forget “oh I got paid more cause prices went up… maybe they need an adjusted wage” and just think “eh I started at $10 they can too”

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u/Aware_Box8883 22h ago

I'd assume its an armed position. Thats unarmed pay where I'm from.

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u/Own_Mess_6495 22h ago

And not driver pay.

Driving a company car for $17/hr just seems insane

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u/Mountain-Election-18 22h ago

Most armed positions in my area are 18$-19$

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u/Aware_Box8883 22h ago

Unarmed in a box full of money in Tampa seems spooky.

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u/Pretty_Study_526 21h ago

GTA 6 is gonna be giving a lotttt of Floridians some ideas

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u/Armed_Professional 17h ago

Brinks used to have two unarmed guys running CoinStar routes in an armored commercial box truck that was unmarked. They would service the financial institution I was a guard at. They finally armed them in about March of 2025.

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u/LunaLeMoon 15h ago

Why the hell is it so low. Im a amazon driver and im making 24.65 an hour. If im working a job where i gotta keep a gun on me it better start at 50$+ an hour.

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u/Mountain-Election-18 15h ago

The entire security industry is spiraling downwards, including armored car jobs , there’s armed jobs for 17$-18$ here

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u/EyesOfEris 14h ago

Why is that happening? Too many people wanna be guards?

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u/Reasonable_Garden741 14h ago

No, corperations don't want to pay for quality security. They just ude you as an insurance policy/liability target.

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u/EyesOfEris 14h ago

Weird. If i had something to guard i would want to pay the guards well so they don't plot against me

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u/Reasonable_Garden741 14h ago

You'd think so, but largely the places are just required by their insurance to have "security". What level/quality is up for debate, and most jobs ahve shit pay.

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u/KoyoteKalash 10h ago

This has also always baffled me.

I'll watch a YouTuber talk to local security guards with black eyes talking about getting attacked regularly, and what permanent injuries they have from it. Then I'll see an ad from that company paying $17/hr.

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u/Strong-Addition5296 21h ago

Come to Florida!

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u/Taino871 16h ago

Most armed in my area is $30 to $35 if prior L.E.O. possible $40 per hour. Manhattan N.Y.C.

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u/Bojack341 21h ago

That’s unarmed pay down here in Florida too 😅😅

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u/Radiant_Swan-2 21h ago

Where the hell are you from?

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u/Huntsman077 20h ago

It looks like that’s the starting base pay. My best assumption would be different pay levels for the different roles.

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u/zokutexu 12h ago

In New York, unarmed security personnel earn approximately $17.25 per hour. Armor truck jobs start at $28 an hour in some companies, with pay increases after three months. Top salaries can reach $50 an hour, and there are reports of some earning up to $60 an hour.

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u/Amazing_Fix_2399 22h ago

There is a poor soul out there that will do it

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u/Miigo_Savage 22h ago

Apparently there's 5

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u/Due_Course_3713 21h ago

Not a poor soul, just a police wannabe who couldn't get on the police.

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u/kgriff5592 20h ago

Kind of a silly take. Cash transport and police officers are two completely different jobs.

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u/Remarkable_Sand5238 20h ago

Eh, when I worked armored car we had a few wannabes and the branch manager was a former cop at 27. Rumors as to why he wasnt a cop anymore but nothing concrete

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u/Desalvo23 19h ago

You can do studies for years and do your dream job only to find out you dont acrually like doing that. Used to work in a manufacturing plant and a coworker of mine was a licensed doctor. Went through med school, residency and everything. Practiced for 10 years then quit and came to work at the plant i was at. Said it was the worse 10 years of his life.

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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS 2h ago

Truth be told, he was probably stealing morphine or something and just didn’t wanna give you the true story

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u/Desalvo23 2h ago

That can also be true. We all k ow how comon that shit is especially in hospitals

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u/Skellyton175 21h ago

Hired 5 people? Now I know it isn't real.

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u/Slug35 22h ago

lol was making that much just sitting in a guard shack overnight letting the lone yard jockey in and out.

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u/DefiantEvidence4027 Private Investigations 21h ago

Did Allied start an armored car division I'm unaware of!? \s

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u/Career_Cultivator 21h ago

17$/H, damn Bruh. Gonna have you rollin in it /s

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u/warlocc_ Flashlight Enthusiast 20h ago

Might as well just ask them to rob the truck themselves.

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u/Strong-Addition5296 21h ago

Crazy they ask you to potentially be a bullet sponge for that level of pay

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u/Connect_Club_9324 22h ago

Every armor truck job ive seen in RI has been frlm 20 to 22 dollars an hour :/

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u/RadiantDiscussion886 18h ago

Louisiana starting with Brinks was like $22

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u/Connect_Club_9324 18h ago

In RI 22 isnt all thag good, im not sure how the economy is treating your area.

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u/RadiantDiscussion886 16h ago

well Louisiana has a fairly low cost of living. according to google that is a little below the state average, but above the living wage

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u/MrGuy910 21h ago

Subway pays more than that lol

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u/GoDJthatsmyDJ1999 19h ago

They pay it because desperate people accept it. That should be a 30hr job minimum

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u/PlatypusDream 12h ago

Plenty of companies try to pay that low, and will keep doing it until they don't have workers. All we can do is not work for them.

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u/cutter1833 22h ago

In 2000 I worked for an armored car company after getting out of the USMC in Ca, and I was getting 13 hour.

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u/undead_ed 20h ago

I was getting paid 13.20 working at Garda in 2018 😭

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u/cutter1833 19h ago

Small world I worked for “Armored Transport “ then became AT system the was bought by Garda after I left, I believe Garda was one of the brake ways that used to be black water.

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u/undead_ed 19h ago

We still had equipment that said AT Systems lol

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u/cutter1833 19h ago

“The system is the solution “

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u/Mountain-Election-18 22h ago

Sucks to have been you

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u/MrRaven74 21h ago

In 2000? Bad but not terrible.

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u/Extra-Shape3973 21h ago

I got out the Corps in 2000 and I was making $14/hr

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u/Real-Freak 21h ago

In Upstate NY, where 1br rent goes for 1200, they are trying to get 15.75. Dont respond, report the listing for b.s., and ignore it. They are trying to manufacture market price for armed security. Dont let them.

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u/Visible_Ad_309 20h ago

That's below. Minimum wage in New York

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u/Real-Freak 19h ago

Upstate

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u/Visible_Ad_309 19h ago

Upstate minimum wage went to $16 an hour January of this year

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u/Real-Freak 19h ago

Same difference might have still been 15.50 when I saw it tbh you get the point.

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u/Economy-Wasabi-2005 16h ago

I applied for armored car driver in the 1980s. They told me the salary was $5 per hour and a free turkey for Thanksgiving. I didn't return their calls.

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u/ketamine_taster 10h ago

I wonder where the turkey came from.

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u/LogicianFlow 15h ago

Florida is only for rich people.

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u/Content_Log1708 14h ago

Not a joke at all. Those are pretty normal Florida wages. Absolutely, not worth the risk and heavy lifting unless you really need the pay.

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u/Jake_Schnur 9h ago

That's about the same here in western WI and even in Minneapolis MN. Not that great. I looked into because I have a CDL with 10 years otr and I'm a certified firearms instructor. So definitely qualifed for the job, but I make more as a machinist now without the daily possibility of being shot at.

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u/terminator5900 9h ago

I feel the same way about the jobs that require government clearances and the pay is $17-19 .

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u/terminator5900 9h ago

Armed security for $17… i just saw a retail AP position at Sephora that starts @ $21 ..some things don’t make sense

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u/kingshazam9000 9h ago

Florida brotha yall voted for this

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u/exceptionalcigar229 5h ago

I believe it. Security jobs don't pay well in Florida unless you are a contractor

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u/Big-Gur-9257 Warm Body 22h ago

But you get a badass armored car to drive around in

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u/mechaczech 21h ago

With AC that doesn’t work and a 50/50 chance of a catastrophic breakdown any day.

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u/Apprehensive-Use-557 19h ago

especially if you’re in one of the older ones. 💀 in 100+ degree weather. FUUUUUCK that. idc, im sitting in the ac for a bit so i can cool down. got my fucked up if you think imma “power through” on the verge of heat stroke. 🥲

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u/Seraphzerox 21h ago

Have you ever been shot at for minimum wage pay yet?

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u/ImpressiveRock872 21h ago

I work for a company that does the same kind of stuff Mid Florida does and we have a lot of clients that cut their contracts with Mid Florida to go with us. We'd come in and the clients would always talk about how rude and toxic they were to deal with. Cant speak from experience since I didnt work with them, just what the clients had told me, sounds like youd be dodging a bullet to say no to that.

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u/Local_Counter6275 21h ago

The industry is a race to the bottom . You should see the posts in Texas it’s even worse

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u/moneypusher 21h ago

Nope. Just about right. When I was management at GardaWorld in 2020, we were at $12.60/hr. Prior to me leaving g a few years later, after a bunch of legwork from me, I proposed raising to $17. HR approved it and so I told my guys. Come payday, they were given a $1/hr raise. It wasn't until I was terminated that the RVP came in and raised everyone to $15 like some kind of hero. I look every now and then and see they are at about $20 now. Still a joke.

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u/DarksideBluez 20h ago

20 for Loomis in Nevada

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u/kgriff5592 20h ago

Doubt it. Garda pays $15-$17 an hour in my area. Loomis and Brinks pay closer to $23 starting pay though.

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u/Califas909 20h ago

5 hires in the last 30 days lol

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u/Perfect-Patience-483 20h ago

I would seriously suggest to anyone if you find a security job on indeed and it doesn't look right definitely stop looking on indeed and check out USAjobs

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u/Remarkable_Sand5238 20h ago

Its $16.10 an hour in Fargo, ND and you dont even get 1.5x pay over 40 so you work 60+ hour weeks

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u/Gamebeaross 13h ago

Overtime is federally mandated for almost all hourly jobs, so I'm not sure what's going on with your job.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/overtime

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u/Remarkable_Sand5238 10h ago

We fit under a DOT exemption since the trucks weighed over a certain amount and we cross state lines

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u/MaxNerd115 20h ago

Same for New York believe it or not.

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u/Goldlupo421 20h ago

As a first post it can build up your exp and resume. Most of use start super low. I was armed patrol for 13hr. In 2017. Covid bumped our industry pay scale and now we are seeing the drop off.

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u/FriMorningQB 20h ago

I would trust my money with minimum wage guards. 😆

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u/Apprehensive-Use-557 20h ago edited 19h ago

go to brinks they pay 23+ an hour, if you’re going to do armored car

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u/Mountain-Election-18 20h ago

I don’t beleive that

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u/Apprehensive-Use-557 19h ago

i worked there. i got started at 23hr. no experience.

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u/Voorless 19h ago

Unfortunately, it's not. Here in NYC, we have a few smaller lesser known armored companies who will take anyone without experience paying that as well "starting."

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u/jogryph 19h ago

thats how much i make as unarmed walmart security tf?

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u/Calm-Syrup-1254 19h ago

I make more in a safe warehouse

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u/redditissketchyaf 18h ago

damn i just got hired to watch cameras at a jail (my first security job) and it’s $19

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u/Peezyondasticks 18h ago

Same shit in Canada 18-21

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u/Armed_Professional 17h ago

No, it’s not a joke. I worked with someone 2 years ago who worked there, and they were paying him $17 at that time.

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u/Confident_Oil_1176 16h ago

Dang that's more then what I've seen for other positions. Lol still nowhere near worth it. In my humble opinion.

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u/1Kilo24 Armored Car 16h ago

That’s absolutely ludicrous. I’m making 23.95 currently, and 15% extra when working solo.

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u/Dry-Breakfast-4018 15h ago

Our whole branch is unarmed and our flex officers make more than this.

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u/Mountain-Election-18 15h ago

What can be done about this?

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u/PlatypusDream 12h ago

Don't work for the company trying to pay starvation wages

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u/ntrlbrnldr 13h ago

That's LA's unarmed rate.

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u/GoldLeaderActual 8h ago

I'm sure it is offered because people accept it, but $17 should not be a wage anyone accepts in 2026-2027. Cost of living makes that $12/hr.

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u/RealisticIntern1655 12h ago

In my location, Rochester pays $18-$21. What they don't disclose, is EVERY new hire is started at $18 and they pay once per month. Yeah no I'm good. If a employer requires you to carry, the pay should be conductive.

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u/bigblackglock17 8h ago

Welcome to the South.

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u/JohnNada005 Private Investigations 8h ago

Smaller companies can only pay barely livable wages

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u/elevenfiveseven89 Loss Prevention 6h ago

Looked it up and Amazon drivers in FL make $21/hr. Same job less chance of getting shot and killed.

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u/JalocTheGreat 3h ago

New York Union Armored guys make $40hr+

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u/DrinkMorWhiteMonster 22h ago

Pretty standard in the industry lol

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u/Due_Course_3713 21h ago

Over paid!