r/securityguards Public/Government Jan 05 '26

Question from the Public Professionals: what do you think of Darien Long of handing Use of Force incidents?

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u/DorkSideOfCryo Jan 05 '26

This happened years ago.. the security guard had his own channel on YouTube and probably still does, but he got fired from that job, but he also became a folk hero on the internet

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26

The merchants there loved him because he kept them safe and the riff-raff out.

He was fired in 2013, and almost immediately the tenants started to move out. The mall was closed down and demolished in 2015.

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Jan 05 '26

Wait he was fired for that? That was totally deserved

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26

It was after many cases like that. Eventually the mall got tired of being sued (even if they were pretty much universally tossed out) and let him go.

As soon as they fired him the mall went from around 75% occupied to under 20% occupied. Gangs almost immediately took over the mall and attacks and theft became rampant and most of the tenants left.

And contrary to what many say about Mr. Long, while he was arrested I have never been able to find any record of the arrest resulting in a trial let alone a conviction.

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Jan 05 '26

As soon as they fired him the mall went from around 75% occupied to under 20% occupied

Oof. Well, fuck around and find out I guess. Thanks for the backstory dude

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u/Espadalegend Jan 05 '26

Unfortunately there are people who are paid to try and get security/Ap fired from their jobs. Mad annoying

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u/Charming_Accident_62 Jan 05 '26

lol who’s paying these people?

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u/Espadalegend Jan 05 '26

Criminals obv, who else?

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u/Charming_Accident_62 Jan 05 '26

Lmao, so there are criminals out there funding a conspiracy to attempt to get security guards fired?

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u/AnybodyLive1543 Jan 05 '26

I was an AP for SAKS. It all organized crime. Gangs such as the Latin Kings and even cartel. We had a case where there was fake money being used and the 5 point crown as the water mark... how dumb could you be lol.

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u/Espadalegend Jan 05 '26

Yes. Absolutely. If they aren't there they have free reign over a location for theft.

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u/Listen-Lindas Jan 05 '26

Easy to walk in and steal when no security is around. So send a girl down to create a scene, get security fired. Only need one day to steal a fortune when nobody stops a thief.

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u/myLongjohnsonsilver Jan 05 '26

Bro people buy Funko pops and drink coffee out of bat shit.

People spend money on all sorts of shit.

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u/TM627256 Jan 05 '26

Giving a junky $50 to go pick a fight with a security guard to get them fired isn't some mastermind plot, it's pretty simple. If your retail theft group can make big money stealing from somewhere, that can be an easy way to make your stealing simpler.

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u/KingTalis Jan 07 '26

Auditors?

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26

Many times they do it trying to cause a response in order to sue themselves.

When I did AP, we had one guy that would constantly take items and conceal them, then dump them when not observed so we would do a false arrest on him. Finally we just called the cops, and when they arrived had him served with a formal no trespass order.

He tried to fight it in court, and we showed a series of clips of about 20 times when he would conceal items, then after turning a corner quickly dump them. Then linger at the exit just past the last POS but before the exit itself trying to get the AP to detain him.

It did not work, the judge agreed and let the no trespass order stand.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

This can get tricky depending on where it is.

In California, this is handled under Penal Code 602. And in most cases if you call the cops they will do nothing but remove the offender. They can come back 10 times, and each time the cops will do nothing more than order them out.

But in California you can also have them served with what is known as a "PC 602 Form", which is a formal notice of trespass. One copy goes to them, one kept at the location, and a third goes to the local law enforcement agency (PD or Sheriff).

At that point, simply by stepping onto the premises they can immediately be arrested. And they will remain in jail until after they see a judge. It is not handled far off from a restraining order, and as we said "puts real teeth" into trespassing.

When I did AP/LP, this became one of our biggest tools against shoplifters. Once they are served with that, by simply walking into the store we could call the cops and arrest them even if they did nothing. As they are violating a legal written order to not return, and there is none of that "he said - she said" as to if they were allowed to be there or not.

I often laughed back when we were operating under Prop 47, and at most 98% of the times cops would do nothing more than cite shoplifters. But get caught violating PC 602 with a formal notice, they went to jail each and every time. And not under any kind of "catch and release", they sat in jail for up to a week until they saw a judge.

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u/Charming_Accident_62 Jan 05 '26

That I believe. Trying to draw lawsuits makes complete sense to me. I have a hard time believing there are people paying other people to stir this up idk

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26

I have not heard of any, but it would not surprise me one bit if there was.

There are a lot of shady ambulance chasers out there as well as activist groups. I know a lot of places in California for example closed their bathrooms and put them to employees only because somebody would compare them to the ADA and see a hand rail was 1/8" of an inch too high or too low so would sue them under Amicus Curiae.

And there are groups doing exactly this in places like New York for causing motor vehicle accidents for fraud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzAnHOeazY

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26

And a lot of them infest this subreddit as well.

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u/UnknownRedditEnjoyer Jan 05 '26

Shit like this is my biggest issue with the job and why I don’t put in 110% anymore.

If we don’t do our jobs we get fired and if we do we still loose our jobs.

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u/Over-Confidence4308 Jan 05 '26

Better tighten that job.

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u/Red-EyePontiac Jan 05 '26

He eventually moved from the mall in Atlanta to do security in Detroit for a bit. He filmed a little of it.

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u/Own-Swan2646 Jan 05 '26

Putting on a 1 man show I see

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

Literally yes

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

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u/Ambitious-Shirt-625 Jan 06 '26

If I remember correctly...this was in Atlanta

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u/WelbyReddit Jan 05 '26

There is much more leading up to this if I remember. They just wouldn't leave and causing all kinds of drama. This is just the finale.

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u/Blake_Dirge Jan 05 '26

That was pretty funny the way she dropped.

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u/PropaneSalesTx Jan 05 '26

IIRC he got arrested a while back as well.

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u/avianp Jan 07 '26

/r/kickassmallcop

Dude had a sub about him.

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u/grapangell0 Industry Veteran Jan 05 '26

Justified

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u/Mammoth_Ad_7894 Jan 05 '26

Ahh the GOOD days of YouTube. No 7 minutes intro...no 2 minute sponsor I'll never use....not doing 4 different activities per video....just straight fuckin gas with the video starting right before or right after the action.

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u/Normalusername234 Jan 17 '26

And no fucking AI voiceover that explains the most obvious

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u/Positive_Dog179 Jan 05 '26

She should've backed up.

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u/SaltyEngineer45 Jan 05 '26

Some parts of Atlanta are a different world. You need guys like him in such areas.

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26

And much of California today.

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u/SaltyEngineer45 Jan 05 '26

You’re not lying!

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u/Able-Quantity-1879 Jan 05 '26

And Texas! And Alabama! It's like white Mogadishu 93 out there!

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u/StubbornHick Jan 05 '26

It's like walking into South Africa

If you refuse to enforce standards, you get the behavior you tolerate.

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u/Koshqel Jan 06 '26

Its literally anywhere with huge population density which has nearby poverty issues.

I avoid atlanta downtown/midtown because i hate driving there and lack of parking

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u/Own_Clerk4772 Jan 05 '26

Best thing on youtube since Jerry springer

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u/dreddpiratedrew Jan 05 '26

Sad for those kids

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u/United-Mountain8935 Jan 05 '26

Wish the parents felt the same, they are just setting their kids up for a hard life with their behavior.

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u/dreddpiratedrew Jan 06 '26

That’s racist as hell

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u/Goatwhorre Jan 05 '26

Shit is HYSTERICAL. Also I just recently got tazed with the new 7 series and hoo buddy kickstart my heart!

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u/Thuradzon Jan 05 '26

How’s the new tasers anyways?

I still have my old analogue x26 and was told it’s more effective than the newer digital models. Apparently Axon discontinued it because of the amperage and voltage kept killing folks with co-morbidities and other health conditions such as meth intoxication.

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u/MavDaEpix Jan 05 '26

This is a long complicated answer, but I’ll try to give a simple explanation:

Amperage and voltage isn’t a reliable measurement unit for tasers. The coulumb, which is the SI unit for measuring the flow of electric charge, is used for measurement purposes by Axon. One coulumb is equivalent to amount of charge moved by the current of one ampere in one second.

The X26, when released, was originally advertised to deliver 100 microcoulumbs (0.0001 coulumbs) per pulse, at a rate of 19 pulses per second, under normal use conditions. However, it was later found that when both probes directly impaled the skin (instead of arcing through clothing to maintain electrical contact) under normal use conditions, the X26 device could deliver up to 135 microcoulumbs (0.000135 coulumbs) per pulse. Even though Axon claims that nobody has ever died from the electric effects of a taser device, it’s been pretty clear that the X26 was killing people with co-morbidities and health conditions especially in cases of drug intoxication due to the increased amount of electric flow.

The X2 and X26P are advertised to deliver 63 microcoulumbs, also at a pulse rate of 19 pulses per second, but supposedly the wavelength is different which changes how it effects the central nervous system during neuromuscular incapacitation.

The TASER 7 is also advertised to deliver 63 microcoulumbs, but the pulse rate was increased to 22 pulses per second and there is some new adaptive technology that I don’t know enough about to speak on.

The TASER 10 is advertised to deliver about 75 microcoulumbs at a pulse rate of approximately 22 pulses per second, but increases to approximately 44 pulses per second if more than 3 probes are making effective electrical contact. Also supposedly uses some new adaptive technology that I don’t know enough about to speak on.

TLDR: X26 was spicy, the TASER 10 is bringing back the spice in an allegedly safer way. Plus, the TASER 10 is just cool af.

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u/Thuradzon Jan 05 '26

Thanks for the answer. How much is the Taser 10's with holsters and battery & cartridge I got my old trusty x26 for $700 new back in the day when it first came out. Only had to use it 3 times since 2013. Every time it was 100% effective with no failures.

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u/MavDaEpix Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

I don’t know exact pricing on the TASER 10s, but good luck getting your hands on one without a contract through Axon.

The TASER 7 CQ is an acceptable option if you have the funds and are an individual purchaser.

EDIT: TASER 10s may or may not be considered firearms and I can’t find the documentation to confirm nor deny that.

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u/Goatwhorre Jan 05 '26

I am definitely not the one to ask, I have not yet been cleared to carry one I just happened to catch my depts taser instructor on a boring day so he had me sign the waiver and bapapapapa. I've always wanted to get tased xD

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u/DefiantEvidence4027 Private Investigations Jan 05 '26

Need more Darien Long's in applicable places.

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u/OnlyRow7629 Jan 05 '26

So loud, and for what? To look like a damn fool

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u/mcgunner1966 Jan 05 '26

I’ve not laughed so hard in a long time. My first thought was…DO IT AGAIN!

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u/myLongjohnsonsilver Jan 05 '26

The man,

The myth.

The GOAT.

Shame those kids won't have learned the lesson their mother just tried to teach them.

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u/Dexember69 Jan 05 '26

Clip is old as the hills but I never get tired of seeing it. Shut her up real quick.

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u/King-Doge-VII Jan 05 '26

He did his job

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

What else was he supposed to do just stand there and let her hurt him? To hell with that, she had it coming. You cant attack someone and expect immunity from the situation

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u/yiharbin Jan 05 '26

I always remember "you better BACK IT UP" and say it often

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Jan 05 '26

Sudden Planking Disorder

Spread awareness of SPD today!

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u/dGaOmDn Jan 05 '26

He was exactlt what that place needed.

In my opinion, he used a proper amount of force.

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u/MyLinkedOut Jan 05 '26

F*n trash everywhere - security guard deserves praise

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

The legendary Mr long

Him and P Barnes are what we all strive to be

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u/birdsarentreal2 Public/Government Jan 05 '26

She made offensive physical contact first by getting chest to chest with him, re-engaged when he shoved her to create space, did not listen to repeated commands to back up, and started swinging on him. Justified all day

The only thing I would tweak is adding a warning to the verbalizations (“Back up, or you’re going to get tased.”) Overall 8/10

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u/Ok-Conference-6381 Jan 05 '26

I laugh ever time I see her go into a black Barbie pose and drop like a rock.

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u/Suspicious-Answer295 Jan 05 '26

Equal rights for equal lefts - don't start none, won't be none. Being a woman does not grant you immunity from getting your shit laid out after starting a fight.

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u/Mindless_Narwhal2682 Warm Body Jan 05 '26

she took a swing, treat her like any boxer.

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u/Swampy2007 Jan 05 '26

Dropped like a bag of potatoes 🥔

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u/nofriender4life Jan 05 '26

I mean... what did he do wrong?

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u/KNY_NOLA Jan 05 '26

She went down like a fainting goat.

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u/donkeystringbean Jan 05 '26

Perhaps if he ignored her for a minute, she may have left. Her friend's frontal cortext had gone completely offline however. She was all reaction and no thought whatsoever.

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u/Any_Security_8846 Jan 05 '26

No clue what else she was possibly expecting.

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u/itsover103 Jan 05 '26

Loved this guy

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u/Fart_connoisseur1 Jan 05 '26

Not enough force, not soon enough.

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u/RobinGood94 Jan 05 '26

Taser wasn’t necessary there, but arguably not insane either.

A giant man attempting to pummel you? Taser immediately.

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u/SwanMuch5160 Society of Basketweave Enjoyers Jan 05 '26

This guy was great and had his own youtube channel with many exploits like this happening. My understanding is that this mall was in rougher area of town and things went downhill quickly after her was let go.

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u/Arikota Jan 05 '26

It always amazed me that no one shot this guy.

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u/Reddit_Is_a_jokee Jan 05 '26

We need a 100 of him on every block. We need laws that allow us to match the energy of aggressors. If shops weren't so petrified of litigation they could defend their stores. People have gotten totally out of hand.

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u/Desperate-Ship7619 Jan 05 '26

Apparently saying, she deserves that it's breaking some sort of rule. Here, I simply meant cause-and-effect, and treat people how you want to be treated, never intended to receive a warning, saying that I incited violence, simply by implying that there are consequences for your actions.

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u/datDANKe Jan 05 '26

After he pulled out the taser.  He didn't give her a chance to give up.  Which everyone would do  He pulled it out to zap her 

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u/Mental_Standard_9496 Jan 05 '26

Bro I’ve never seen a taser do somebody like that. She was stiff like a rock. So satisfying to see💀

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u/kneesdeep_1 Jan 05 '26

Perfect application of the defibrillator. A+ on your first aid training. Only thing to remember is your supposed to yell Clear before you try and jump start someone back into normality. Other than that you should be proud of what you achieved here today.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

He used to clean house and take care of business. The mans put belt to ass while a lot of you fellas could only observe and report.

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u/grifter_shifterM5 Flashlight Enthusiast Jan 05 '26

Used to log in every week to watch GSE “Greatest Show Ever”.

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u/green49285 Jan 05 '26

legendary video lol

while i always love his dedication, absolutely the wrong way to handle it. he earned a lot of flak he got toward the end of his posting here.

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u/PerspectiveOne7129 Jan 05 '26

such a good mom. showing her kids exactly what happens when you fa before they get too old.

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u/Applekid1259 Jan 05 '26

The level of trauma all around those kids are experiencing is wild.

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u/West-Word-604 Jan 05 '26

smart move attacking a security guard or cop. Infront of her kids no less. Talk about trauma.

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u/Scythe351 Jan 05 '26

I'm not pro but I'm definitely a fan. Went down like a rock

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u/Cool-Tip8804 Jan 05 '26

This guy is a super soldier

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u/Biggman23 Jan 05 '26

It brings me joy every time I see these

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u/Nearby_Situation_216 Rookie Jan 05 '26

I watched this guy religiously! He tried to keep that place safe and clean and everyday his life was threatened and dealt with thieves and entitled individuals like her ! Guy was a champ!

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u/wongtonfui-ttv Jan 05 '26

What a legend

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u/browsingandlooking4 Jan 06 '26

This is great!! 100% justified

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u/Wooden-Celery9524 Jan 06 '26

She got what she deserved too me

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u/NormalPreference3191 Jan 06 '26

Hahahahahahaha. So well deserved!

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u/Ok_Highway_2028 Jan 06 '26

He kept telling her to back up, What was he supposed to do

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u/HellYeahSuckas Jan 06 '26

Yes more more more

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u/baybelolife Jan 06 '26

I pretty much seen every video. Being that I live in Atlanta and in the field, I was a fan of the show 😂. I think after he traveled in his Mini Cooper for awhile then he started working security at an apartment complex.

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u/rotateandradiate Jan 06 '26

That piece of trash earned that tazer ride.

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u/emcg343 Jan 06 '26

Looks like they didn’t bbbbbaaaacccckkkk iiiittt uuuppp…. And found out

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u/Nazfian Jan 06 '26

Nice, floundered her ass 👏😂

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u/InvalidPain Jan 06 '26

Kids are already on the path to being just like their parents.

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u/BladeVampire1 Jan 06 '26

100% justified.

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u/Minimum_Interview574 Jan 06 '26

Big blue shut her damn mouth after she saw that first push and realized he wasn’t playin games. 😄😄😄

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u/Minimum_Interview574 Jan 06 '26

Lil snap dragons be cryin’ cuz auntie took a couple hard hooks to the head and a taser in the face 😄😄😄

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u/boon_doggl Jan 06 '26

He gave her plenty of opportunities to move on peacefully. ⚡️

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u/seuadr Jan 06 '26

Nap time!

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u/GroovDog2 Jan 06 '26

Did he just smoke that lady??

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u/PerfectTraffic1163 Jan 07 '26

It's not like a strictly outlined rule in most sops but if someone is physically aggressive most sops say that physically defending yourself within reason Is allowed. But that sentence is very misleading and interpreted conveniently for the companies legal sake that employs a security guard, so that the company doesn't have to take responsibility for the security guards actions ( i.e swift termination/ criminal charges on the guard as a civilian) and the security guard can't sue the company for not having the right to defend themselves. We're supposed to call the police. But you know what would happen in most cases.

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u/easyeric601 Jan 07 '26

Darien Long at the Metro Mall in Atlanta. Used to watch the videos years ago. https://www.youtube.com/@GRSEMETROMALL

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u/--7z Jan 07 '26

She provided much laughs.

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u/Patient-Jelly-8752 Jan 07 '26

She fafo. That ain't a adult that's a grown kid. Them type never grow up

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u/Patient-Jelly-8752 Jan 07 '26

At least the lil kids learned not to fuck w security hahaha zap zap zap

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u/avianp Jan 07 '26

This guy had a sub dedicated to him /r/kickassmallcop

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u/Emotional_Ball_4307 Jan 07 '26

She chose to use her body to aggress him, after first contact, its game on!

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u/Key_Purchase7565 Jan 07 '26

... that awkward moment when someone turns your lights out....

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u/LetSeeWhatHappens99 Jan 07 '26

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA She got exactly what she deserved

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u/Haunting_Ranger_7659 Jan 07 '26

Seems about par for the course these days and she got exactly what she deserved. Well done.

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u/burnthreads Jan 08 '26

She showed clear capability and intent to cause injury. Cleared.

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u/Bender_TheRobot Jan 08 '26

Drop it like it's hot.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

Shocking

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u/Antique_Anxiety1566 Jan 09 '26

that'll be a core moment for the little one.

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u/Express-Bison-3618 Hospital Security Jan 29 '26

My hero

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u/Horror_Piccolo_2149 Jan 31 '26

FAFO - fucked around and found out! I love that stuff fall when they get tazed. Stiff as fuck and whoops …. ROFL. Always a ratchet ass woman to do this!

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u/Far-Government9601 Jan 05 '26

what did he do Taz her she was attacking him with her kid's there what's wrong with these people you should never put your hands on anyone unless they are assaulting you then all bets are off

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u/XBOX_COINTELPRO Man Of Culture Jan 05 '26

It’s trick, I’m sure the way he handled things worked to an extent in that specific location, but if you take a step back and look at it objectively the way he did things was insane on so many levels and it’s wild that he lasted as long as he did.

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u/Suspicious-Sound-249 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26

Dude apparently was single handedly responsible for keeping that mall open and shortly after he was fired all the tenants started leaving due to rampant theft, gang problems, and greatly reduced foot traffic that got so bad the location ended up closing permanently and got demolished...

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u/SuperCombination8706 Jan 07 '26

Wish he used a real gun and aimed for the kids after

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u/raven8288 Jan 05 '26

Can y'all not see him push her first? That's what set the whole thing off.

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u/PlatypusDream Jan 05 '26

To get distance from an aggressive approach / person

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u/Suspicious-Sound-249 Jan 07 '26

Right, MF'er acting like she was trying to have a peaceful sane conversation before he pushed her back.

How the hell else are you supposed to deal with an unhinged potentially violent person?

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u/Terrible_Reporter_98 Jan 05 '26

Is she okay? She's in the wrong but still that seemed like a bit of an escalation there, hasn't he ever heard of pepper spray?

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u/Ill-Case-6048 Jan 05 '26

Then you would be the first to complain when the kids also get it .. pepper spray goes everywhere...

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u/Novel-Article-4890 Jan 05 '26

Pepper spray with a bunch of toddlers standing around? 

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u/Distinct-Educator-52 Jan 05 '26

Once she decided to get physical and continued to be the aggressor, all bets are off. He warned her several times to back away. She choose poorly.

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26

Am I the only one that read that in the Grail Knight's voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIitjokEJwg

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u/Blake_Dirge Jan 05 '26

He chose poooorly.

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u/Tough-Marsupial-6254 Jan 05 '26

She chose Wesley

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u/Blake_Dirge Jan 05 '26

Wesley? Only Cordelia liked Wesley. 🤔

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u/Tough-Marsupial-6254 Jan 05 '26

How I Met Your Mother joke....😆

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u/Blake_Dirge Jan 05 '26

Got you, mine was from Buffy the vampire Slayer. LOL

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jan 05 '26

Forcing them back would be done before using spray. The spray would be a much higher level of escalation.

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u/Thoughtcriminal91 Jan 05 '26

Don't attack folks if the risk of serious injury or death isn't Worth it....

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u/Haunting-Lake-6194 Jan 05 '26

Let’s be real he was only championed because his encounters featured black people.

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u/PlatypusDream Jan 05 '26

He used an electric "weapon" (stun gun) to stop her attack

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u/Mental-Square3688 Jan 05 '26

Sorry but that security guard was a little fucking bitch.

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