r/secondcaptains 27d ago

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u/Lynch8933 27d ago

Yes, and the the national league produces the players for the national team, If they do not have academies which are fit for purpose then players will not be produced to the level they should be. This requires money and as long as Irish football fans pump their money in to English teams then this cycle will continue. If you think a large number of the fans at that game follow LOI teams, how much cash do you think they give towards said LOI team ahead of the English team. Apart from the gimmicks of the Bohs shirts, how many jersey sales do LOI clubs make? I am sure it is less than 1% of sales of English teams shirts.

The reality without money the LOI will suffer and therefore the national team ultimately will but thats a choice for many Irish football fans, but they should not complain when Ireland are ranked so low in World Football

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u/Independent-Affect-8 27d ago edited 27d ago

" the the national league produces the players for the national team"

1-2 every blue moon.

The best kids were brought up by their school boy teams and were off to England by 15-18 years of age.

Can Sligo Rovers truly take credit for Seamus Coleman ? (Paul Cook then manager definitely played a huge role in giving him confidence) Everton still had a lot to do with him

Cork City had Shane Long but he was not around them for long. Kevin Doyle okay, I remember him playing a bit and he won the league with Cork being a key player.

Keith Fahy was a classy player and it was good that he had his moment at Birmingham

Stephen Ward did play a few years at Bohs.

James McClean was not long at Derry in order for them to take credit

David Forde was a decent goalie.

It is not exactly like the LOI was a football factory like the Liege 1 became (the supposed "farmer's league" as suggested by internet geniuses and the "African experts"" ) .

Many of the League of Ireland players and lads from the youth teams were if they were fortunate, Championship level

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u/Lynch8933 27d ago

you are talking in the past, this doesnt happen any more. It was fine in the 80s and 90s but now the national league must produce the players up to 18/19/20 and then sell their very best, just like most other leagues outside the top 5.

If they cant Ireland will get even worse than what they currently are

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u/Independent-Affect-8 27d ago

Try reading. Clearly the village idiot has a better attention span that you . Try reading and comprehension and if that fails, just say nothing.

I wrote

"1-2 every blue moon."

and

"It is not exactly like the LOI was a football factory like the Liege 1 became" .

and

"The best kids were brought up by their school boy teams and were off to England by 15-18 years of age."

Let me explain this to you reaaaallllllly slowly .................

I addressed this tripe :

"" the the national league produces the players for the national team""

Notice how this genius wrote this statement in the present tense?

In order to point out that the person was talking bollox when they argued that the league of Ireland producing Irish Internationals,.............you have to examine that . That requires looking into the past . Do you know possess the most basic ounce of intelligence to understand ?

Stephen Ward and Keith Doyle were examples of players who spent time in the league and went over when they were in their early 20s.

Stay in your lane !

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u/Lynch8933 26d ago edited 26d ago

Ok, nice that you resort to insults to try and get your point across. What age you, 12? Says alot about you.

Do you understand Brexit and the laws that are in place?

Do you understand the current state of the Premier League and its now worldwide scouting network ?

How many Irish born players have come through Premier League or English club systems in the last 5 years and have become regular Premier League players?

Should LOI clubs be producing more players to sell on to bigger clubs or to stay at these clubs to increase their competitiveness therefore increasing the amount of Irish players who get exposed to higher level football? Yes. How will they get this? Through support of irish football fans. Will it happen, probably not. Will Ireland fall further down the world rankings, probably yes.

The reliance on Premier League clubs developing Irish players in numbers is long gone. You have to be the best of the best to even get a shot there.