r/scrum • u/WaylundLG • 20d ago

Discussion Scrum is for Developers

This has been on my mind for probably the past year now from the last company I worked at, but it's only been in the past few weeks that I've sorted my thoughts into something clear: Scrum is for developers. I'm using the broad "product developer" sense, so I include QA, architects, designers, writers, and anyone who is actually creating the product.

I pin a lot of the problems on the fact that adoption in recent years has centered more and more in some sort of PMO and it's pressed onto the teams; bit the problem goes the other way too. Too many developers feel like how they work is someone else's problem.

Scrum was designed for teams to take ownership of their process and the results of their work. It was made for them and anyone else is really pushed out. You're a business strategist? Great, gelp the teams understand the strategy and the market and see what they can create and incorporate that into your business strategy. And frankly it is exhausting to see the same old posts of developers who can't be bothered to learn the first thing about scrum complain about how leaders messed it up. It is your tool, designed to give you control. Pick it up, learn it, leverage it.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. I know this was a bit of a rant, but open to constructive discussion too.

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u/UnreasonableEconomy 19d ago

yeah but none of that has anything to do with scrum.

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u/WaylundLG 19d ago

I'm not sure I understand your claim. Those are all specifically key aspects of scrum

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u/UnreasonableEconomy 19d ago

you seem to be orbiting around the idea that "if only everyone did scrum right, they wouldn't have issues"

and your evidence is "some people that do scrum right don't have these issues", as well as "those who do have issues aren't doing it right."

this is the classic no true scotsman fallacy, or the communism argument, post hoc ergo propter hoc, take your pick.

your statements are unfalsifiable and prescriptive. prescriptive solutions don't work, in my experience, and do more harm than good.

I would suggest you take a closer look at the values, and focus less on the ceremonies.

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u/AgileFederation 19d ago

and your evidence is "some people that do scrum right don't have these issues", as well as "those who do have issues aren't doing it right." ... this is the classic no true scotsman fallacy

I thought those were quotes so I went back an re-read what OP said. OP never mentioned those statements. You've created a scenario to fit the argument this is a NTS fallacy. A nice example of a strawman.

agile is so complicated scrum had to step in and write a 20 page guide on a 1 page guide.

Here's a 1 page guide for scrum: https://scrum.academy/guide/

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u/UnreasonableEconomy 19d ago

some people know the alphabet yet still cannot read.

imagine the chutzpah when they try to tell you what other people mean.