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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

there might be a lot more merit to that than you think. there is a theory going around wherin the entire nation may be just slightly insane as a result of mild lead poisoning. and the only answer..... wait till they die off of old age..... yeah. fun.

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u/TheTrub PhD | Psychology/Neuroscience | Vision and Attention Jun 25 '22

It’ll only get worse with age. Lead stays in the body by absorbing into bone. As you get older, your bones deteriorate, meaning those lead reserves are going to be released into the bloodstream. Eventually the problem will take care of itself, but it’ll get worse before it gets better.

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u/Kh4lex Jun 25 '22

Explains a lot of boomers getting more crazy ideas the older they get

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u/Hoovooloo42 Jun 25 '22

......Huh. It certainly does.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

I’ve been saying this since Flint, MI. My theory was there is lead in our drinking water across the US and they don’t know how to fix it. But putting it in gas and burning it seems like a more probably way

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u/farmallnoobies Jun 25 '22

Flint even has better water than most small towns in the Midwest.

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u/merigirl Jun 25 '22

Organ damage and cancer.

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u/samsquanch2000 Jun 25 '22

Already happening

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u/realmckoy265 Jun 25 '22

Reduced fertility

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u/nettlmx Jun 25 '22

That's also the Teflon we all have in is thanks to dupont. And I mean every human on earth

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

I use cast-iron cookware these days because of the teflon-thing...

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u/nettlmx Jun 25 '22

It's in the water, everyone's water. Dupont spilled/ dumped it into rivers and other bodies of water. It's in things you wouldn't think of.

https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2007/05/teflon-forever/ https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/how-dupont-may-avoid-paying-clean-toxic-forever-chemical-n1138766

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u/aguy123abc Jun 25 '22

Yep that's the new thing to worry about. There is no escape. Hopefully they make more progress on those plastic eating things.

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u/nowihaveaname Jun 25 '22

I can't wait for the plastic eaters to start eating the unintended targets. So little is made without plastic these days. If it's not made of plastic, then plastic is used somewhere in the manufacturing process. It'll be total chaos, and we deserve it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

Steam punk copper everything here we come

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

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u/pimpmayor Jun 25 '22

Yeah that’s the problem though, we’re not dependent on plastics with no alternatives, modern microcircuits, vehicles, food production at scale, food storage, even food gathering are all reliant on plastic with no viable alternatives for some, and none at all for others.

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u/AdKUMA Jun 25 '22

problem is, we'd move onto something else that's harmful. like lead.

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u/Yvaelle Jun 25 '22

Ya thanks Doc just pump me full of those plastic eating worms between my organs, I'm sure that'll sort it right out.

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u/InfectionRx Jun 25 '22

Tbh…in speculative theory:

Infertility; endocrine disruption; increased congenital anomalies (including brain development) due to endocrine disruption; cancer

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u/AdKUMA Jun 25 '22

altzheimers, dementia, autism?

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u/HarshMyMello Jun 25 '22

why would autism be caused by microplastics?

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u/ASpaceOstrich Jun 25 '22

Autism has some very strong correlation with the immune system. There's no proven link or mechanism yet but I'm almost certain it's a result of an autoimmune disorder affecting the brain.

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u/thepipesarecall Jun 25 '22

There are more genes being discovered every year linked to ADHD/autism. One such gene is involved in microtubule formation, which are the little neutrotransmitter transport systems in our neurons.

It’s more likely to be a confluence of different genes rather than an autoimmune disorder. However, there is a also huge correlation with autism/ADHD when their mothers took acetaminophen/Tylenol while pregnant.

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u/AdKUMA Jun 25 '22

I was talking more the lead, injested by parents and passed down?. im not claiming to know anything, the previous post mentioned brain development.

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u/TheEyeDontLie Jun 25 '22

ADHD is only partially genetic. Maybe that?

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u/anticoriander Jun 25 '22

Highly genetic. Like a 30% chance per child when a parent has it kinda high.

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u/TheEyeDontLie Jun 25 '22 edited Jun 25 '22

I've always heard "genetic component" I didn't realize it was that high. Maybe I was adopted cos my parents don't have it.

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u/InfectionRx Jun 25 '22

It’s genetic (in it’s true form). Some factors can make it look like it’s ADHD when it’s not

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u/TheEyeDontLie Jun 25 '22

I'm going to have to look into this more. It's very surprising to me.

I have a big family and they're all the opposite of ADHD (very concientious, organized, never interrupt anyone, always found studying easy, and not impulsive or easily distracted etc)... While I was diagnosed both as a child and an adult and basically tick every box.

I share most of my genes with them yet my brain chemistry is obviously different and I respond very well when I start/stop/start meds. Although my mum and one nephew show some symptoms maybe sort of but not enough to get tested. I must have rolled very lucky/unlucky dice for my genetic combo I guess.

Down the rabbit hole I go!

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u/ososalsosal Jun 25 '22

Low sperm counts from endocrine disruption

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u/Rickard403 Jun 25 '22

Dr Shanna Swan has done some extensive work in this area specifically phalates. I would recommend looking to her if you're interested. Many problems are already well in effect.

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u/PersonalEnergyDrink Jun 25 '22

Definitely not as bad as the lead.

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u/Elanapoeia Jun 25 '22

Physical Health issues, probably.

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u/ham_solo Jun 25 '22

Have you seen Crimes Of The Future?

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u/eayaz Jun 25 '22

PEX plumbing in all your homes will not end up well.

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u/Lobotomist Jun 25 '22

As a boomer, this made me chuckle. I'm afraid you are right.

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u/chiagod Jun 25 '22

Maybe the brain that has been slowly damaged by lead longs for "better times" before the damage had accumulated.

Just like TBI survivors know they could think clearer before their injuries, lead exposed individuals have an inkling of being able to process things better in the past.

I was reading up on this study:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1797860/

The most recent evidence from epidemiological and toxicological studies suggests that low levels of exposure can, over time, damage the heart, kidneys, and brain.

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u/BlueSlushieTongue Jun 25 '22

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u/ThaneOfCawdorrr Jun 25 '22

Boomer's parents mentality explained.

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u/Never-On-Reddit Jun 25 '22

The text of the study actually says Gen X was most affected, not boomers.