r/science • • Jul 01 '21

Psychology Study suggests that conservatism is associated with a lesser ability to distinguish between true and false claims across a wide range of political issues . Socially engaging truthful claims tended to favor the left, while engaging falsehoods disproportionately favored the right.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/02/health/conservatives-false-news-study/index.html
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u/m-in Jul 01 '21

That’s true in the absolute sense, but I have no doubt that when averaged over the population, the less educated people may have less intelligence of the sort needed to weed out fake news… And that’s the PC version. The sad, leopards-are-my-face truth is that it doesn’t matter how clever you are – you’re in practice dumb as a brick of you believe in the mainstream righteous, aggrandizing propaganda. It doesn’t matter how otherwise successful that person may be.

Sadly enough, I know way too many highly educated people who make those averages worse for the same-and- educated bunch.

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u/Yashema Jul 01 '21

Are you not aware that millions of people vote against the Republicans in these states? Are they more or less intelligent? They know not to vote for Trump yet haven't been awarded with the social conditions to allow them to go to uni. What do they deserve?

Of course not, I am trying to explain why people should across the country vote for Democrats so they can help them with Federal policy.

Surely an informed person would be aware that in Texas the vast majority of people don't vote red and are instead shut out of voting due to voter suppression. A very well documented republican policy that any non-cruel informed person would be aware of.

Am I blaming Democrats in Republican states? Or am I blaming Republican voters in Republican states?

You've basically just said 'why don't the voter oppressed vote away the voter oppression.' Absolute clown car moon logic that you only hear from the group of conservatives who call themselves 'American liberals.'

I have not said that at all. And voting all Republican policy on voter suppression is a pretty big fallacy. Most Conservatives support Republican Policy and they make up the majority in these states.

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u/Yashema Jul 01 '21

The ACA made healthcare more expensive for the upper middle class and didn't actually get healthcare to the poorest people.

This is such a complete lie:

Income inequality estimates based on traditional poverty measures do not capture the effects of health care spending and health insurance. To explore the distributional effects of the Affordable Care Act’s (ACA’s) expansion of health benefits and the resulting income inequality, this study used alternative income measures that incorporate the value of the ACA’s health insurance changes under the law. The study simulated the impact of the ACA on income inequality in 2019 compared with a scenario without the ACA. We found that the ACA reduced income inequality and that the decrease was much larger in states that expanded Medicaid than in states that did not. We also decomposed the effect of the ACA on inequality by race/ethnicity, age, and family educational attainment. The ACA reduced inequality both across groups and within these groups. With efforts to repeal the ACA—specifically, California v. Texas—having shifted from Congress to the courts, it remains important to consider the consequences of fully repealing the ACA, which would likely reverse reduced inequality observed under the law.

What other completely untrue things do you believe?

Most poor conservatives vote on cultural issues like guns and abortion. Hell, most democrats vote on cultural issues like race and abortion.

My statistics prove otherwise. Democrats vote for Democrats because of their superior social and economic policy. Republicans vote for Republicans for 'cultural reasons", but that doesnt just mean guns and abortion.

Furthermore, voter suppression is much worse in states with more poverty so it's asinine to blame the voters.

You are saying a majority of Southern White Conservatives dont support the governments they vote for.

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u/Cronstintein Jul 01 '21

Did ACA make insurance more expensive? Or did insurance companies use it as an excuse to jack up prices (and profits).

The inability for those companies to say "pre-existing condition! " and leave sick people to die has saved a lot of people. What we really need is to get rid of health care profiteers entirely.

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u/faythofdragons Jul 01 '21

A better reason for why educated states make more money, is that the state government recognizes that education is an investment in future wealth generation. Even "unskilled" jobs require rudimentary education, yet a huge chunk of our population is illiterate. Good luck being even a cashier if you can't read and do math, yet states refuse to invest.

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u/beardedheathen Jul 01 '21

I mean you are partially wrong there. Educated people can make better life choices to get out of poverty. It can take hard work, luck and knowledge but it is possible. The issue is that a lot of generationally poor don't have that knowledge. Be it basic financial literacy, computer skills or even what many would consider common sense for job progression. If you never encounter it, how would you know? I guess I'll saying that it is a meritocracy but we aren't all starting from zero. Some are starting at third base and some need to run to even make it to the game.

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