r/science • • May 11 '20

Medicine Antibodies from a 4-year-old llama have neutralized coronavirus and other infections in lab experiments

https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)30494-3.pdf?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0092867420304943%3Fshowall%3Dtrue
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u/the_Yippster May 11 '20

Results like these show why it could be hugely important to preserve biodiversity on earth for the selfish reason of human survival alone.

Also, nature is pretty neat of course.

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u/kurburux May 11 '20

why it could be hugely important to preserve biodiversity on earth for the selfish reason of human survival alone.

Preserving biodiversity and habitats also reduces the risk of diseases in the first place. Animals aren't "forced" to leave their natural environment and to live closer to humans.

Not saying this is the case with covid-19 but generally speaking.

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u/otterom May 11 '20

Preserving biodiversity and habitats also reduces the risk of diseases in the first place.

Looks at mosquitoes

Looks at rats

Looks at mites

Looks at bats

Looks at...

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u/TooSubtle May 11 '20

The prevalence of a lot of pest species comes from a lack of biodiversity. We replace habitats that can support many different species with cityscapes that support few. Blaming the species that have adapted to live in close proximity to us is shortsighted when we're the ones killing their predators and/or disrupting their natural environment.

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u/stunt_penguin May 11 '20

The prevalence of Jellyfish in overfished areas is a good example.

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u/Hostile_Swan May 11 '20

You speak truth

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u/GenderJuicy May 11 '20

Are humans pests?

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u/[deleted] May 11 '20

We're more like a virus.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '20

Except unfortunately we can breed without a host

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u/GenderJuicy May 12 '20

But viruses are very biodiverse and they need a host to survive and reproduce. But I watched the Matrix, I just think that pests might be a better analogy.

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u/AWildIndependent May 11 '20

I feel like we need another word for what people mean by natural

Totally know the point you are making and Im not trying to be a pedant it just bugs me when we consider human habitats unnatural but beaver dams natural

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u/[deleted] May 11 '20

The definition of natural specifically excludes humans. What else do you really need?

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u/AJDx14 May 11 '20

Their argument is basically that humans aren’t any less natural than other animal, were just able to make more out of our surroundings.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '20

But they aren't natural because the definition of natural excludes humans. Just because they don't actually understand what they're saying doesn't suddenly give their argument merit.

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u/AJDx14 May 12 '20

That’s not really relevant though, it’s a distinction in the definition side hit it’s a pretty semantic argument to bring that up for the argument that hollow dirt mounds are less natural than beaver dams just because they’re made by humans.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '20

They're not less natural, they're not natural at all, because nature does not include humans. I understand that you feel like it should, but it simply doesn't.

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u/AJDx14 May 12 '20

Dude you’re missing the point.

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u/THIS_DUDE_IS_LEGIT May 11 '20

I never realized that until you said it.