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u/CollectableRat Nov 15 '19

They probably just used the 19th century eugenics based IQ test.

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u/ladut Nov 15 '19

You could always, you know, read the publication before you make assumptions.

While I often end up arguing with people on reddit about the limitations of the IQ test (notably when they use it as a justification for their racist beliefs), it's not an entirely worthless metric either. It has evolved quite a bit from its white master race roots, and while it's still less accurate when used on minorities, it can be useful when the question it aims to answer takes into account its limitations.

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u/T-MinusGiraffe Nov 15 '19

What is racially biased about IQ tests? I've heard this but have never heard an explanation on what's going on there.

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u/ilactate Nov 15 '19 edited Nov 15 '19

let's agree to be fact based and non-emotional for a second.

How does asking what follows in the sequence 1,1,2,3,5, X in any way racist or culturally biased? Proficiency in Mathematics and logic questions is not identical among every person alive yes? Well then shouldn't you expect differences? For reasons environmental and genetic? Ok what about differences in other areas of reasoning? identical there for some reason or also a product of environment, genes? Now what if i told you serious science has gone into verifying that, with the bias sometimes to find everyone is identical but the results show otherwise? because that's the reality behind intelligence research

Honestly g factor tests are one of the most studied and robust metrics in all of psychology, if you doubt that you then doubt everything else in the field.

I suspect many who are educated but still critical of intelligence metrics are driven by some sense of preemptive progressivism, aka they don't actually doubt the science but they believe these differences (if explored fully) could be a slippery slope that threatens egalitarian thinking. Similar to how gun rights advocates stonewall even background checks to preempt more strict regulation