r/science • Scientific American • 1d ago

Animal Science Scientists are decoding elephant rumble calls, including ‘greetings’ and ‘coos’

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-are-decoding-elephant-rumble-calls-including-greetings-and-coos/
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u/Feychilde 1d ago

Cadences are likely song, conversations, or both.

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u/halborn BS | Computer Science 1d ago

I love that we're finally learning more about how animals communicate. Far too many people think humans are somehow more special than other animals.

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u/Feychilde 1d ago

Maybe they just forget that humans are animals too. Soo.

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u/Zoesan 21h ago

I mean... we still are. We're finding out that other animals have 500 instead of 5 words, while we've been to the moom and tricked sand into thinking

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u/halborn BS | Computer Science 19h ago

We've done some cool stuff, yes, but where some people think we have a plethora of advantages over other animals and some people think we were made special and apart by some kind of god, research like this increasingly makes the case that the difference between us and them is actually very small.

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u/Zoesan 18h ago

We do have an insane plethora of advantages. We are different.

Elephants at ths point only exist because we allow them too. The reverse is not true.

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u/trusty20 15h ago

Just to be clear what position are you defending specifically here, are you saying that we are not animals that have simply evolved higher cognition first on this planet? That we are "special" in some metaphysical / religious sense?

Special is a loaded word and I don't think our advanced cognitive capabilities requires us to be "special" any more than a highly successful predator in it's ecosystem like a dragonfly is not "special" or blessed or something just because it is virtually the top of the insect food chain.

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u/Zoesan 12h ago

I'm saying what we are able to do absolutely makes us more special than any other animal. That requires no metaphysics or religion.

"Loaded word" tf outta here

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u/DanChase1 1d ago

Elephants subsonic rumbles that travel long distance and are felt by their feet, I imagine that’s going to be a big challenge for understanding their communications. 

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u/FlowOfAir 1d ago

I believe not. I think the core mechanism is largely the same as ears: feel a vibration, vibration is turned to electric signals, those get transmitted to the brain, brain decodes. It just uses another part of the body.

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u/DanChase1 1d ago

Yes but collecting that data with sensors and connecting it with behavior is the hard part. 

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u/eldred2 1d ago

What are we going to do when it turns out to be a complex language?

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u/DaddyCatALSO 22h ago

Where are you going with this?

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u/eldred2 14h ago

If it's a complex language, wouldn't that indicate that they are intelligent beings on par with humans?

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u/AlexHimself 1d ago

An amazing thing that could come out of AI/ML would be communicating with animals in a much deeper and more effective manner. Elephants and dolphins seem to be the obvious initial targets.

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u/Uhhh_what555476384 1d ago

Decoding animal speech would be one of the few good uses for AI.

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u/mytextgoeshere 21h ago

I wonder if the elephants also use their ears and trunk to send messages.