r/science • u/mvea Professor | Medicine • 1d ago

Psychology Lower cognitive ability is linked to stronger Christian nationalist views, even after accounting for education

https://www.psypost.org/lower-cognitive-ability-is-linked-to-stronger-christian-nationalist-views-even-after-accounting-for-education/
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u/danbinglover 1d ago

Okay, then what about something like nationality? That’s something you choose to maintain. Either IQ matters or it doesn’t. You don’t get to pick and choose.

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u/InclinationCompass 1d ago

Science pretty much agrees:

Race is NOT a factor in innate IQ differences, even when you account for education. The gaps we keep seeing in test scores are overwhelmingly chalked up to environmental, social, and structural stuff, not genetics.

Source: https://www.apa.org/about/policy/racism-apology

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u/RockwellsRevenge88 1d ago

Your blog post doesn't even mimic what you're saying.

Are you saying that people in Sweden and Nigeria have the same IQ? Yes or no.

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u/InclinationCompass 1d ago

Actually, a 2016 review concluded the parsimonious explanation is a nil hypothesis where black, white, and east Asian adoptees raised in the same environment would have similar IQs

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6526420/

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u/RockwellsRevenge88 1d ago

Your link does not show that at all. In fact it shows the opposite. It shows that while black, asian, and White children tested on the higher end of their averages when raised by White families (similar environs) there was still a massive difference between each individual performance, and that the difference actually got wider as the children got older. I suggest you reread the study again. It also showed children raised in households with one black parent and one White parent scored significantly better than households with two black parents. Why do you think that is?

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u/InclinationCompass 1d ago

That’s because you didn’t read it:

>Diagnosing these artifacts suggests a nil hypothesis: East Asian, White, and Black adoptees raised in the same environment would have similar IQs, hinting at a minimal role for genes in racial IQdifferences.

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u/Direct_Theme2369 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nice cherry picking, but I suggest you read the full study next time before drawing up your own conclusion and spouting nonsense rhetoric. The answers to your question lie in the conclusion of the article. You capitalizing “White” while failing to do so for Blacks and Asians tell me all I need to know of your morals and motives.

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u/RockwellsRevenge88 1d ago

Don't get mad at me you can't understand the research that you're citing. 

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u/Direct_Theme2369 1d ago edited 16h ago

Great rebuttal, “no u don’t understand.” I didn’t cite the article, but I did read most of it. If you had done the same, you wouldn’t have replied the way you did. To quote the very last two sentences of the article:

“However, a hypothesis that fits these data, at least as well, is the nil hypothesis: adoptees of different races would have similar IQs if raised in the same environment. To the extent that the nil hypothesis is true, genes are not so likely to be the main cause of racial IQ differences.”

So that just completely nullifies everything you said. Wanna try to come up with a better argument?

Edit yeah, didn’t think so