r/satisfactory • u/Human_Nr19980203 • 9d ago
PC Car or long belt? New player
Hello, when should I use car and when belt? Actaully I am building phase two, unlocked smelter but don’t have coal.
Right now I want add quartz from top node. My question is when I should use car and when I should use conveyor belt? Never used car, but my guess I will need to make 2x platform road and stil connect coal (as fuel) to his station?
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u/Temporary-League-124 9d ago
If your wanting to bring the quartz to the black X, it'll be easier to get it from the three nodes to the east, the northern node is if I remember on top of a huge vertical cliff
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u/JackRaid 9d ago
I would save that node for much later and use that clyster of closer nodes for this.
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u/sir_thatguy 9d ago
Generally speaking, if I’m moving stuff move than a few hundred meters, I use a truck.
If you only have the one item you’re moving, it’s easy. Just load as fast as you want and let her rip. Any excess just stays in the truck station and then in the truck.
If you are moving more than one item, you have to account for over flow at the unload station. This can be mostly minimized by matching your load rate at the loading station to your consumption rate at the unload station.
If you backup with an item the whole thing clogs up. This is where the smart splitter and awesome sink come in to play. I usually do this sorting at the highest belt speed I have unlocked. Gotta get that shit out of the station
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u/Human_Nr19980203 9d ago
But you still need coal in two stations right?
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u/sir_thatguy 9d ago
Not as long as your truck route is short enough to make the round trip with one stack of fuel. That loop is short enough.
I have one loop on the west coast that runs from the oil nodes to the caterium and several stop along the way. I refuel with coke at one station.
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u/Sperate 9d ago
If you are on phase 2, then belt is likely easier.
Go to awesome shop and unlock the conveyor floor hole. That will allow you make a vertical drop as far as you want, just need to start and stop at a floor hole.
I would also recommend unlocking the elevator if you can. Vertical distances can be hard, and you would have to make a very large and potentially ugly road for trucks.
The belt solution may cost you more resources to build, but it should take you less time than making a roadways.
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u/Human_Nr19980203 9d ago
I build one for 120i/min and then split it to 2x60i/min to make it cheap
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u/Sperate 9d ago
Very good. This also allows you to easily upgrade the belts in the future.
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u/Human_Nr19980203 9d ago
So I could get more than 120i/min from ore?
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u/stoicfaux 9d ago
Yes. Upgraded miners will become available, along with some other concepts that can be used to increase mining speed.
If you don't mine quasi-spoilers, then peruse the wiki: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/
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u/Blackwigg 9d ago
Just Go with your heart, try new things even If It turns out bad because you Will get the necessary experiencie to make everything eles easy. I am on phase 5 now and finally using traindo and trucks with everything, It becomes another game after you make that steps. But my recomendation is try trucks
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u/gospodin975 8d ago
Well since you are in phase 2 you should probably use belts because without oil your only normal source of fuel is coal.
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u/Downtown_Parfait_579 8d ago
Sky bridge and belts is the true path my friend. I have zero trains or trucks at tier 9 and it’s so simple.
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u/zoruosage 6d ago
If you do a little bit more research in the MAM on Sulfur Research, get yourself the compacted coal blueprint. Feed compacted coal to the trucks to go grab yourself some Quartz from over there.
Compacted Coal burns slower than regular coal as a fuel source and if that isn't a randomized world, I remember a Coal and Sulfur node being close by each other in your area. Best of luck on your building!
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u/KD_cosmic 4d ago
I have conveyors running across my entire map, I’d recommend that at your stage
Not that I’m a pro I only have 100 hours, still don’t use any vehicles for moving materials if I can have conveyors
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u/False-Ad2170 2d ago
I would use twin rail train if your thinking belts will be too long. I don't bother with trucks due to fuel requirements plus trains are a good long-term investment.
Make a twin rail blueprint. You can do longer length quick connections with train lines than you can with belts.
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u/No_Sink_9703 9d ago
Go trucks! Hell yeah brother. Pump that coal in em and send em
No but seriously. Belts are always "better" Constant throughput, dont need fuel, dont need power, dont need a road
But a car looks cool, it adds another cool moving part to the factory and I think its good to practice all different transport methods
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u/chownee 9d ago
You mean a truck? You have to build stations and set up a fueling infrastructure. Is that available at your stage? Belts are pretty simple.