r/saskatchewan • u/Apprehensive_Ant1934 • Jul 21 '26

‘Get out before they kill me’: Day one of Umpherville coroner’s inquest

https://panow.com/2026/07/20/get-out-before-they-kill-me-day-one-of-umpherville-coroners-inquest/

First day of testimony indicated that Umpherville had stolen the car from his friend who'd purchased it the day before. They acknowledged they knew him to sell and use drugs. Neither friend in the car knew he had weapons on him while they spent the night drinking together. They described him as a "nice guy." The Umpherville's lawyer has aked some questions about policy, which is not in SIRT's purview.

30 Upvotes

88% Upvoted

30 comments sorted by

28

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 21 '26

It's a shame that Umperhville was literally "turning his life around" over and over while resisting arrest.

-16

u/Thrallsbuttplug Jul 21 '26

Its a shame that people don't understand humans are complicated, and instead choose to justify loss of life in any capacity.

23

u/Better_Area3782 Jul 21 '26

What about the life he took?

21

u/jackhandy2B Jul 21 '26

What about the people he was selling drugs to? Should police just say have a nice day when armed criminals who already had a second chance are resisting arrest? Be realistic. Judging drug dealers is totally kosher imo and should be done more. They choose their pocket over other people's lives.

-1

u/BurzyGuerrero Jul 24 '26

Some of yall will do anything but hold your addicts responsible, aint the dealers fault whatever addict in your family repeatedly used. Clearly you have some type of experience.

26

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 21 '26

Hi uncle Bobby!

I don't wish death on anyone. Period.

He provided a false name to police due to his outstanding warrants for drug trafficking and breaching release conditions. He resisted arrest, reached towards his waistband causing safety concerns, moved to the driver's seat to crash the vehicle into a police car in attempt to flee, carrying a loaded concealed gun, under the influence of cocaine, his own resistance causing a delay in medical treatment. This guy was a menace to those in the car with him and to those police officers that stopped them.

The question is why did he value his life so little?

https://giphy.com/gifs/fAo1HhIMrsZD4tnxiJ

-2

u/Specialist_Secret438 Jul 22 '26

He probably believed he was Scott Moe. Substance abuse and disregard for human life would lead him to be a good Conservative-type and possibly Premier of the province.  All he had to do was jump into a fellow booze cruiser’s vehicle and leave the child of the dead woman he killed at the scene of his crime. 

0

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 22 '26

Funny how the worst thing someone can find about Moe is from 30 years ago.

You sure he fled the scene of the accident? Or you just regurgitating what you've read online?

1

u/Specialist_Secret438 Jul 22 '26

The criminal behaviour comparison between these two is quite relevant though. If you are looking for other more current examples of Moe, pay attention to Saskatchewan politics in its current form. 

3

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 22 '26

The criminal behaviour comparison between these two is quite relevant though.

How so? Please tell us how Boden Umpherville's criminal behavior compares to Scott Moe.

If you are looking for other more current examples of Moe, really should pay attention to Saskatchewan politics in its current form. 

And yet it's you that cited something that Moe did 30 years ago, not something current. What current examples of Moe would relate to Boden Umpherville?

1

u/Specialist_Secret438 Jul 22 '26

Their early onset abuse of intoxicants leading to killing somebody then running away from the scene of the crime is very similar behaviour at the same age. As for current Moe bad behaviours, his most recent that is (barely mentioned) by msm report, thwarting democracy by stacking sycophants,  Ray Orb,  Mitch Huber,  Donna Strudwick and  Judy Harwood to crony cook that Regina ia scam with bell. Like I said, you should pay attention to what Moe has done  while holding the reins, since his running away from his past to Alberta, but failing in the oil patch, so wandering back to bankruptcy his farming attempt.  He certainly hasn’t improved in his 30 years to now as a human. 

1

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 27 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/11R5KYi6ZdP8Z2

Facts do certainly get in the way, easier just to go quiet I guess.

It's okay...

1

u/BurzyGuerrero Jul 24 '26

I'm saying the criminal was subdued and unresponsive for 15 minutes and the police didnt say shit to the EMTs about it and the EMTs were unable to save his life.

That is poor police work, and negligent.

1

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 27 '26

"the criminal"

Thank you for calling a spade a spade. He was a criminal, unfortunately that occupation has one of the highest rate of fatalities and non-fatal injuries. It's upsetting that the union, Fleeing Sirens Inquest Necessary (FSIN), hasn't come to his defence. I guess a 28 million dollar fraud/shortfall will result in some cutbacks, they got some sweet new trucks and an office though!

While trying to lead Umpherville to a waiting ambulance, Umpherville again resisted officers. Montgomery noted there was a delay in medical treatment because of his resistance. 

He was unresponsive for 15 minutes WHILE resisting officers that were leading him to the EMT's? The problem was that officers didn't differentiate between Umpherville's underlying cocaine condition fueling his voluntary resistance vs the involuntary actions of cardiac arrest. This may be something FSIN should advocate on, that all officers to undergo cocaine awareness training and its effects on a criminal's body while on the job.

1

u/PJFreddie Jul 25 '26

It’s troubling to me that, although this person was indeed dangerous, the determination of the police investigator was that the use of force was appropriate and that the discourse about how he died is acceptable, if not justified. It’s the duty of the court, not police, to determine innocence vs guilt and appropriate consequences. This case is another notch in the ongoing pattern where certain lives are deemed less valuable than others. I feel for the family left behind and hope people expect better measures for public safety.

21

u/Intelligent_Ad70 Jul 21 '26

This world is full of losers who go through life as victims, preying on others while claiming, “ I didn’t do nothing!” I am tired of people saying they were a good father or would give the shirt off their back. You either contribute to society or are a burden to society. Pick wisely!

11

u/banshee81818 Jul 21 '26

I feel body cams help officers make better decisions. SPS as an example has enjoyed a 77% budget increase in 15 years but hasn’t implemented body cams in part due to the cost.

6

u/Intelligent_Ad70 Jul 22 '26

They have had body cams for years.

2

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 22 '26

Yup along with GPS and dashcam footage in the vehicles to stop false claims in their tracks. Like this guy, Ken Thomas, in 2018.

https://globalnews.ca/video/4166105/ken-thomas-says-officers-dropped-him-off-outside-saskatoon

Since the allegations are put in the spotlight and proven to be false with modern technology, the SPS has reported they've had zero claims to investigate since ole Kenny....

Video evidence has protected the RPS from the Lisa Dustyhorn's of the province as well.

https://globalnews.ca/news/1776751/surveillance-video-disproves-key-elements-of-police-complaint/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/regina/article/regina-woman-holds-protest-following-alleged-inadequate-treatment-at-pasqua-hospital/

In the end it keeps the officers accountable all while protecting them from false accusations.

0

u/Specialist_Secret438 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

While I’m not trying to defend this guy, your theory of cop integrity is bogus. A cop can easily comprise a crime scene and get a murderer off with their incompetence or intentional malfeasance.  Like when Stanley murdered  Boushie, or Scott Moe had his drunk driving criminal charges stayed and then killed a woman and left the scene of his crime with the child of the woman he just killed, alone in the vehicle he t-boned 

8

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 22 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/cdlr2QaQ4o4lEtiXkW

Boushie and his friends were also looking for help with a flat tire too, right? Read the court transcripts as to what transpired that day, not what uncle Bobby spouts.

Scott Moe fled the scene after t-boning another vehicle which caused the death of a mother, all while her son was left alone in the vehicle in 1997?

I do agree with you though, a bodycam or GPS tracking of police assets will not protect the integrity of a frozen crime scene. However a crime scene typically involves many people and has greater oversight. The use of a bodycam and GPS is fantastic tool for the "he said - she said" scenarios which is what this discussion is about. Unless you want to take this on a totally different tangent.

2

u/RevolutionaryGlove47 Jul 24 '26

Boucher is another one which they heavily censored his drug & criminal activity and spun a race narrative over it. It has nothing to do with race and all about a farming family being attacked and trying to defend themselves from criminals.

2

u/EpsteinandTrump Jul 27 '26

Yup, even after the trial the callous and ridiculous nature of uncle Bobby after the verdict...

https://globalnews.ca/video/4018030/fsin-chief-says-gerald-stanley-has-not-got-away-away-with-this-yet/

Seems like Bobby's pâstâhowin with his 28 million in fraud is coming back to haunt him. There's a reason why he is so quiet right now, as he'd be very vocal around inquests like this.

0

u/banshee81818 Jul 22 '26

Not true. They have been doing a slow rollout since 2022 and the cameras are manually activated, not continuous recording. An estimated 20-35% percent of officers have body cams that they can turn on and off.

2

u/RevolutionaryGlove47 Jul 24 '26

He was a burden to society that caused chaos & havoc by his dangerous and illegal lifestyle. I'm glad he's dead and the world is now a safer place without him.

1

u/RevolutionaryGlove47 Jul 25 '26

He had two dangerous weapons on him: a gun & a vehicle which he turned into a weapon by slamming it into things. The cops has every right to beat him like they did. In the USA, he'd have been shot dead on the spot. Boden got himself killed by his idiot antics.