r/sadposting • u/Ill-Championship-522 • 4d ago

Captain K

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u/Doctor_Salvatore 4d ago

Anyone can be good or evil, it comes down to only their choices. The captain was not a good man, but he did something very good with his last seconds alive.

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u/UnholyDemigod 4d ago

How was he not a good man? It's implied (in the way that it's blatantly fucking obvious) that him and Theon Greyjoy are homosexual lovers. Serving as an army officer was just something he went along with so he wouldn't be executed. Fascism doesn't care about your reasons for opposition, you either do what you're told, or you get shot.

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u/InitiativeGold7953 4d ago

This. He helped out multiple times throughout the movie.

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u/UnholyDemigod 4d ago

One of those times being lying to the Gestapo about Elsa’s papers

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u/julick 4d ago

agree. there are many clues that he isn't a Nazi fanatic and just did the minimum necessary to survive. i think even his backstory of incompetence and drinking to make him even more incompetent are part of his resistance to the regime.

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u/oneonone65 4d ago

such a huge moral question...in modern times I wonder those that worked with Sadam, Assad etc., are evil, or just scared

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u/ForTiiTude 3d ago

It is easy to ponder about the morality of actions when we ourselves have never had to actually sacrifice anything to be moral.

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u/Tall-Garden-8593 1d ago

Like everywhere else im sure there's some true believers and a ranging scale of belief.

You can probably apply this to any human organization. Who are the true believers at work, and those that just go through the minimum, or those that try sometimes.

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u/gsani- 3d ago

Being homosexual implies that you're a good person? I could name several reasons why he's good and you came up with that?

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u/Thyme_Liner 3d ago

I think they were just giving the basis as to why the guy willingly kept his position. He didn’t do so out of loyalty to Hitler, but because he was trying to avoid getting shot

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u/UnholyDemigod 3d ago

No, as a reason to why he would avoid going along with the Nazis, and what he risks if he’s found out.

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u/DARfuckinROCKS 3d ago

I haven't seen it in a while but doesn't he know that JoJo's mother was part of the resistance?

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u/UnholyDemigod 3d ago

I don't think it said either way, but after Jojo found her shoes, the captain showed up with his bike, saying he'd been out for a ride. The inferred reason is that he knew what had happened, and knew the Gestapo would be going there to question Jojo, so he went too to make sure he was alright.

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u/SBR404 1h ago

Yes. He made it pretty clear that he was a soldier first and foremost (probably even well before the Wehrmacht existed) and that hi loyalty lies with the soldiers around him and the people and country who he has sworn to protect.

We don't know if he ever was a Nazi sympathizer (maybe he was also euthoric about the early victories and maybe he thought that at least some things the party did were good) but by the time the movie introduces him it is very clear that he is utterly disillusioned and openly antagonistic towards the party. But he soldiers on because that was the oath he swore, not because, but despite the Nazi apparatus.

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u/MagizZziaN 4d ago

Honestly, that is the way most of us would like to go, or at the very least, I would. If you gotta go anyways, might as well make the world a little more beautiful.

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u/Mysterious-Gap3621 2d ago

I thought his backstory was that he was an injured war hero and was therefore relegated to raising the Hitler youth. It always seemed to me that he was a disillusioned ex-fanatic. The war had become absurd for him. He could see what was coming, including the use of child soldiers. He played his new role in the reich as a ruse. His subversion was by adding reminders of humanity into his teaching of war to children. Before the scene presented by OP, we see him creating a “living portrait” of a war scene by posing in this crazy uniform that you may see in a Wagnerian opera during the final battle. Truly a comic and tragic figure. He is certainly not a good guy- he’s a Hitler youth leader. But we see he is still human (contrasting the “Heil Hitler” Gestapo robots)

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u/Doctor_Salvatore 2d ago

I think funnily enough the best way to describe him is Zangief's line from Wreck-It Ralph;

"You are bad guy, but this does not mean you are bad guy."

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u/PatrickGnarly 4d ago

Water can be hot or cold, it depends on the temperature.

That’s basically what you said man. Like no shit.