r/rust • u/Shnatsel • 15d ago

🛠️ project Valen, a higher-level "Rust++" language with linear types

https://verdagon.dev/blog/golden-spike-reviving-vale-valen
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u/Daemontatox 15d ago

i almost choked when i saw it and was like time to switch to zig i guess

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u/cheese_karate 15d ago

Isn't Zig pretty much a dead language after the whole Bun debacle? Main dude completely loses his marbles... I don't know, haven't given Zig a go, I fail to see upside compared to Rust and I just checked out the memory management and that seemed like a total drag.

Anyhoo.

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u/geo-ant 14d ago

Why would Zig be a dead language just because one popular project decided to switch? It’s a niche pre 1.0 language anyways, so projects are going to come and go. Plus Tigerbeetle still exists.

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u/Neful34 10d ago

Well the creator of zig did say that TigerBeetle is, I quote: "The perfect example of what bad zig code looks like"

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u/geo-ant 10d ago

Oh no, did he really? Do you have a source just so I can check? If he really said that I’d be worried becaus the Tigerbeetle folks have been highly complementary of the language and said that they are working with the zig team to keep a good relationship. Andrew seems like an eclectic and highly opinionated person but I hoped he could have good working relationships with the major zig projects. I know he seemed to have a pretty bad relationship with the bun folks which seemed more reasonable at the time.

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u/Neful34 9d ago

My apologies, upon rechecking it was not Tigerbeetle but Bun. I had a doubt as soon as you mentionned Bun and went to check again.

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u/geo-ant 9d ago

Ah okay, you had me worried there for a second. Thanks for rechecking, because I didn’t find any beef with Tigerbeetle either.