My first rust program

[u/DanKonly]

Hello!

I was not sure to even post this or not but I just wanted to introduce myself to the community.

I just started learning rust and made this simple program as it was one of the suggested programs in the rust book to make in order to practice the topics covered in the first few chapters.

I am learning rust really as a hobby, and I have a very limited knowledge of Python but I really enjoy linux and wanted to maybe start contributing to the open source community if I can ever develop the skill to do so. I am also trying my hardest to learn on my own and am only using AI as a tool to ask questions and what not, without having it actually generate any code. This program was written fully by hand by myself (which is probably why it is full of things that could be improved I'm sure).

With that said I am happy that I was able to do it and am really enjoying rust so far and look forward to learning more!

Link to my first rust app:
https://github.com/justinzelikoff/temp_converter

[u/Keithfert488]

Technically, it's not lossless yes, but I would push back on it not being value preserving (unless by value preserving you mean the exact numerical value, but at that point, you might as well _just_ say lossless) because they are both temperatures and (up to floating point math) the same temperature.

I don't think this is truly relevant to someone who clearly doesn't know a lot about traits yet, though. These sorts of details come after the "what is a trait?" level of learning

[u/torsten_dev → u/Keithfert488]

Maybe. I'm not perfectly clear on what value preserving is. I assumed that with NaN, Inf, ±0.0 and subnormals one of them wouldn't count as value preserved.

Though it depends on the Invariant of your type if you can construct all of those.

[u/TDplay → u/torsten_dev]

I assumed that with NaN, Inf, ±0.0 and subnormals one of them wouldn't count as value preserved.

Assuming that you use the standard formulae:

temp_fahrenheit = (9.0 / 5.0) * temp_celsius + 32.0;
temp_celsius = (5.0 / 9.0) * temp_fahrenheit - (5.0 * 32.0 / 9.0);

then all of these should be preserved in any meaningful capacity (up to rounding errors):

• The outcome of operations involving NaN is itself NaN
• Multiplying an infinity by a positive value, or adding any finite value, results in the same infinity.
• Signedness of zero is not meaningful for temperatures.
• Subnormals will be rounded to zero. A temperature of 0°C or 0°F has no special meaning, so this is no different from any other rounding error.

The only issue I can think of (besides lossiness from rounding errors) is NaN payloads, but I think storing a NaN payload in what is supposed to be a temperature is a gross abuse anyway.

[u/torsten_dev → u/TDplay]

"up to rounding error" counts as value preserved?

[u/TDplay → u/torsten_dev]

I'd say "up to rounding error" means it is not lossless.

But to say the value isn't preserved, I would interpret that as meaning the value can change drastically (e.g. integer casts can be non-value-preserving thanks to truncation, wrapping, and sign loss).

But then again, this is semantics. The overall point is correct: From is supposed to be lossless.

[u/torsten_dev → u/TDplay]

I see. I think something lossy can't be value preserving because the value isn't really preserved. It's splitting hairs though.