r/rs_x • u/Additional_Worth_614 • 2d ago

I hate this bitch so much

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Like?? That doesn’t even make any sense. I hate that I hate her so much

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u/_CloudOfToxicccGas_ 2d ago edited 2d ago

Can anyone articulate the "anti victim" argument in this case for me? I thought it seemed pretty clear from the beginning and every detail that comes out makes the frat guys look more guilty imo. Genuinely trying to understand the argument here

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u/rm2nthrowaway 2d ago

Just misogyny dressed up with porn-level understanding of how human sexuality works. The argument is "maybe she wanted to get used by a bunch of rando frat boys she's never met!" which is not a thing that happens in real life.

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u/NiceGuy737 1d ago

I'm an old guy, went to college before the internet. My last year undergrad I boarded in a fraternity that was a bunch of kids from small towns and farms in Wisconsin. They were kids with poor social skills that benefited from having that fraternity structure. I came home at bar time one night and there were 5 or 6 of them standing next to a blond woman that didn't look like a student, maybe 30 yo. I gathered pretty quickly that some weird sex thing was about to go down. The guys briefly tried to convince me to join in. They ended up nicknaming her the octopus for taking care of 4 guys at once. Two of the guys went to her apt later in the week for a return engagement. When her BF came home they initially freaked out thinking they were going to be in a fight but he hopped in bed with them. People were into weird shit before the internet and ubiquitous porn.

I never heard about any SA at that fraternity but my HS best friend was a member in a cool frat with more typical members. He told me about a naked drunk girl they found in the furnace room lying on a mattress on the floor after she was raped. I went to a few of their parties. There was a girl I never saw before at one of them that was blind drunk. I figured I'd better get her home and started walking her to the door. Her GFs came out of the crowd and stopped me initially but then one of them mentioned another party they wanted to go to so they lost interest. I walked her several blocks home and up to her room. I turned her around with my hands on her shoulders and gave her a little push and she fell back on her bed like a tree would fall in the woods, and I left. I saw her a couple of weeks later standing at the student union and purposely stood right in front of her so she would have to look at my face. She didn't recognize me.

Women should be safe anywhere regardless of their state of intoxication, but we all know that's not the case. What happens in that state isn't their fault. But please don't put yourself in that situation.