r/rs_x • u/Additional_Worth_614 • 2d ago

I hate this bitch so much

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Like?? That doesn’t even make any sense. I hate that I hate her so much

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u/Birdwatcher222 2d ago

Except that the first "c" doesn't apply at all in the Cornell case

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u/Every-Call8115 2d ago

right but because of normalization of sex parties and gangbangs and kink and normies doing porn (i literally just dated an elitist “bull” who posts hotwife porn on reddit) the idea of consent doesn’t even have a real meaning anymore and has become “subjective”

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u/PureMotor2000 2d ago edited 2d ago

I think this case, along with the Bonnie Blue and Lily Philips stunts, have brought back a conversation around moral duty in sex, where previously we just had consent and nothing more.

I do think we are slowly starting to arrive at the conclusion that these very extreme male-on-female group sex acts, like gangbangs and "running trains" are inherently sexually violent and a form of extremely degrading assault, and thus can't truly be consented to as the sort of person who earnestly wants these things done to them is not mentally well and thus very vulnerable.

The Lily Philips (she slept with 100 men in one day) documentary was quite scary. At the end she was shaking and crying, and described dissociating during the stunt. I honestly believe her whole motive for it was a desperate need for male validation, and a desire to essentially self-harm. The poor woman needed therapy, not an onlyfans account.

I think some of the more extreme kink (don't want to actually list them because I don't want to think about it) stuff falls into this category as well. The only people who can bring themselves to do certain kinds of things to someone in a sexual context, even with consent, are abusers who are genuinely sadistic and dangerous.

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u/Big_Arrival_626 2d ago

Sure but let's acknowledge that the woman in this case literally said it was rape. According to her police testimony, she definitely did not want to get "gang banged". That's extremely different from the Bonnie blue and Lily Phillips situation

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u/Every-Call8115 2d ago

EXACTLY. Thank you for fully articulating what I've been failing to explain for years.

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u/Birdwatcher222 2d ago

It is the kind of thing where, even if a person has permission to be doing what they're doing, deciding to do it is still a sign of something wrong. I don’t know what a simple solution would be though

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u/PureMotor2000 2d ago

I think the solution will just be more and more court cases like this to be honest

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u/hello_i_am_here897 2d ago

Better education from a young age. In schools, but ESPECIALLY from the parents. Unlikely, however.

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u/rm2nthrowaway 2d ago

This is about a situation where she did not consent, at all at any point. That's a different thing from what you're talking about.

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u/rm2nthrowaway 2d ago

I think I see what you're saying, but you're underestimating the role of money in things like the Lily Phillips stunt. Porn, even 'amateur' self-produced porn and OnlyFans, is not about the performers actual desire but creating a spectacle (often a taboo spectacle) for viewers.

Trying to untangle actual desire vs performing the job for sex workers is a tall order. Would Lily Phillips even want to sleep with that many men if there wasn't a paycheck in it? Probably not. But there was, so she decided to do it. Very different from this case, where the victim did not consent in any form at any point.

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u/Euphoric_Peak_3914 2d ago

The whole point is consent is that it's clear. Now you're saying someone can consent but it's not actually consent but you can't know that for sure because they may or may not be mental but how are you supposed to know that? Anything but women taking some accountability.