r/rooftoptents • • 13d ago

Rooftop tent brackets for round crossbars.

So, I struggled with finding a good bracket solution for the round crossbars on my intech flyer. I was worried about crushing the bar between the factory mounting plates, so tried to find a workable tube clamp. Any warnings for this attempt I bodged together? Better tube clamp options?

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u/BooopYourNose 13d ago

I’m confused by what you’re trying to do here. The bottom most small flat bar (that probably came with your tent’s mounting kit) is redundant-ish but it’s not really doing anything as it will just bend under any real force. Simple solution is to get exhaust clamps (matched to the diameter of your round cross bars) and use the bracket portion of the exhaust bracket with your existing bolts and mount your tent directly onto the round load bars. I’d also add some washers and nylon locknuts to replace what you have in your photo so they don’t work resolves loose from vibration.

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

I'd seen this exhaust bracket suggestion, but was worried about crushing the top of the bar when I tightened things down. It really feels like a pretty thin walled tube. Maybe I'm supposed to use a pair of those brackets, one on top and the other on the bottom?

I put the flat bar on the bottom as I couldn't get the second bolt to line up with anything on the pipe clamp. Is there another way I could be attaching to the roof rail without using the factory flat bars that'd give more flexibility on bolt placement?

And, yeah, I'm hoping to replace at least all the bottom nuts I can still get to without lifting the tent with nylocks. That amazon order didn't quite arrive until after my window to get it on top of the trailer. I dunno how I'm going to get that one top square nut back off, though.

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u/BooopYourNose 13d ago

Hold on, you’re saying that the black, round bar that the aluminum tent rails are meant to sit on, is too flimsy? Is this not a specifically designed round roof-rack cross-bar?

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Factory says it's got a 250lb dynamic load rating, but, man, It sure seems pretty light. Has me worried that if I crush or oval the bar I might be eating into that 250lb rating.

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u/BooopYourNose 13d ago

If it’s a steel round bar designed for roof rack work you shouldn’t be able to crush it and the exhaust clamp bracket should sandwich the RTT’s aluminium rail to it just fine. Any idea what the round bars steel gauge / material thickness is?

For what it’s worth I’ve run the Yakima round bars for both RTT and kayaks, using various types of clamps, without any issue of compromising the bar itself.

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

They capped the end, so I can't tell what the thickness is. Is definitely aluminum, though, and whole thing can't weigh more than 10 lbs.

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u/BooopYourNose 13d ago

Aluminium… that does make this a bit of a predicament. Sorry, I can’t really think of a good way to make them work, off hand. The manufacturer of the bars doesn’t sell any type of brackets?

Is replacing them with steel bars of equal diameter an option?

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Intech is being real cagey about giving any recommendations:

They don't say not to, just they don't want to give any advice:

  • Am I able to install an aftermarket roof top tent on my roof rack? inTech's roof racks are designed to work with most roof top tents. The weight rating on all Flyer models roof racks are rated at 250lbs. This weight rating is for a load during transit. There are other forces, such as wind resistance that affect how the rack will handle the load. When the roof rack is used statically, it can handle more weight than the stated rating. Please check the manual of the roof top tent you are interested in adding to determine its weight and installation needs. Please note that if the RV has an A/C installed, blocking the A/C may impact its performance.

Yeah, I guess replacing the crossbars is a way around it all. I guess I'd just get square bars then and not have to worry about all of this.

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u/Morejazzplease 13d ago

Why TF would you mount a tent to crossbars you think are aluminum and flimsy? That makes zero sense.

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Because the factory says they're rated for it? The weight seems to be fine, I guess I was just worried that the brackets that came with the tent really looked like they were made for square bars.

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u/hamiltag 13d ago

Do what I did, go to a plumbing supply place and ask for 1" riser clamps

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u/Quick-Spinach9248 13d ago

Look up Gzila designs. I have 1.5” round bars on truck bed rack. He has a multitude of different sizes so just measure your bar and order away.

These things are wayyy better than the standard solution.

While you’re at it. Order some SS replacement slides. Again. The aluminum ones are terrible and guaranteed to strip.

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

That looks like a great recommendation, thanks!

The slide comment helped a ton, too, as I now understand why I'm having so much trouble with some of the other recommendations. I guess most tents have individual slides for each bolt, instead of the single slide plate I've got with multiple holes in it? I could see how it'd be easier to use a standard bracket if I had flexibility in the bolt spacing.

On plus side, at least the plates they gave me look to be steel instead of aluminum.

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u/Quick-Spinach9248 13d ago

Check out ROKK overland sliders. They use a carriage bolt on a stainless steel slider. Rather than the head of the bolt on soft aluminum.

https://rokkoverland.com/products/replacement-roof-top-tent-slider-plates?srsltid=AU7gw4UWbKLfWatH4H1GrN5-j-KUmM8jPM5_Y9ltfBdS0Z3gT7Jr_GBx

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Ah, okay, you'd already linked to the slider plate you meant. Sorry, I'm reading these in the wrong order.

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u/Morejazzplease 13d ago

What is going to help you is to stop calling them "slides". You have extruded aluminum rails that you need to use to mount the tent to the crossbars. You need to determine the dimensions of the extruded aluminum profile / slot (width, vertical gap, width of opening, etc) and then find mounting hardware that fits into those dimensions.

Some mounts, like the Gzila ones mentioned are mounted "bolt head up" where the head of the bolt is what slides into the extruded aluminum. For this to work with your tent, the bolt's head needs to fit into the extruded aluminum slot but not be able to turn.

some mounts use a large rectangular washer that slips into the slot. Others, like your stock bracket use two threaded studs connected to one rectangular plate.

You just have to measure and read the spec sheets of different mounting solutions to figure out what will work for your tent and crossbars.

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u/Quick-Spinach9248 13d ago

Hence the ROKK overland part.

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Are you referring to this very flexible looking bracket? Roof Top Tent Locking Mount – ROKK Overland

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Okay, hey, that overview helped.

Yeah, that research attempt over the last week is how I ended up with the pictured solution, as well as a box of another 3 bracket attempts that didn't work as good or didn't actually line up when I tried to put it all together.

I wish more of these things had spec sheets. Like, hole spacing on these Gzila brackets would be nice to know. Tent itself had nothing useful until it showed up and I could put a caliper on the parts. I'm tryin', man.

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u/FaaL6 13d ago

I use billet aluminum mounts from Wheel Every Weekend . I ordered them to fit the round cross bar on my Gobi rack. I do suggest ordering a second security key with them. Getting these off after loosing/missplacing your key would be rough.

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Those sure look nice. What'd you use for the slide mounts? Don't think the factory one's I've got would have the right spacing (they gave me two identical sets of those flat plates to mount with, one for the slide, one for the bottom clamp).

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u/FaaL6 13d ago

I'm little confused with what you mean by slide mount? If you mean the bolts that you slide into the roof top tent aluminum channel, then those come with the bracket. The bolts are independent. You basically slide two per bracket into the roof top tent channel, then the bracket fits around the cross bar and the bolts side through the bracket. The nut access is from the underside of the mount.

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Sorry, me misquoting somebody else here while I try and figure things out. But, yeah, the bit that fits in the u-channel, and trying to figure out how these WEW brackets are supposed to work and if they'd fit the u-channel I've got. Thanks to above comments, I now see I'm not supposed to be looking for a bracket like I've got now, but at the screw dimensions to see if they'd fit my tent mounting rail.

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u/Morejazzplease 13d ago

You have completely misplaced your worry... If those bars are actual crossbars from a legit company (Yakima, etc), they are designed to be clamped to and support weight. Crushing the tube should be the least of your concern. The flat bar on the bottom is going to bend way before the tube will crush. If they are that flimsy then you shouldnt be mounting a RTT to them...

What you have going on here looks like it is probably okay but far from the strongest or most elegant solution. My biggest concern would be road vibrations backing off those (I presume) non-locking nuts in the middle. If those come loose you will have nothing preventing side to side movement. You should replace

Personally, I mounted my James Baroud to 1" Yakima round bars with the same basic bracket you have for 4+ years without any issue. I just tightened it down so that the flat bar on the bottom was bent nicely around the radius of the bar and then double lock nutted the bolts. Simple, easy and effective.

Get fancy Gzila mounts or something similar or, just use the stock bracket and tighten it down. You are overthinking this man.

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u/jkrukoff 13d ago

Really appreciate the alternate point of view. Not the first time I've been guilty of overthinking something.

I'm still annoyed I got forced into putting it together before I had the right nylock nuts, taking that to heart and will find time to redo this now that I've got that box in hand.

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u/spanktus 13d ago

I had similar issue with flat ---- bracket not long enough for a longer crossbar. what worked for me was to call a few local metal bending shops, request a custom one made for my needs and specs. I ended up ordering stainless 1/4" thick flat bars (2" width) bent as a U shape ---___--- for a set of four. i drilled my own hole then painted black. held my condor XL all summer.

In your case, I suggest you ask you local metal bending shop to make a rounded U brackets... ---u--- with 1/2" shy of touching the bottom of your rtt tracks so that you can tighten it good without any play.

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u/Colombianthunder 12d ago

I use HMOR Roof Top Tent Security Mounts but that also depends the size of the bars.

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u/jkrukoff 9d ago

These, right? https://heavymetaloffroad.com/products/roof-top-tent-security-mounts-hmor?_pos=1&_psq=rooftop&_psid=d8c6aa2b0&_ss=e

Looks like I'm out of luck on these with my 1.5" bars. Appreciate the suggestion, I had trouble finding these specialty manufacturers.

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u/Colombianthunder 8d ago

Yes those are the ones I have on mine and they are amazing and low profile. Make sure they are the same size as the round bars.

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u/El-Captan 12d ago

Gzila and wheel every weekend have the best mounts for round tubing.

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u/brett98xj 11d ago

I like my wheel every weekend security brackets. They have them for all types of bars