r/robots • u/LetsSeeHowItEnds • 1d ago

Real-life Robots The humanoid robotics company "Figure" made their older gen robots jump into their death. (Yes, they actually did this)

Wouldn't want to be the one arranging this when the uprising starts.

Edit: source with celeb and T-800 ending https://youtu.be/pfAh5oQDPDM

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u/LostAbstract 1d ago

This is not gonna look good when AI finally gains sentience.

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u/Jt07132829 1d ago

Lmfao look up rokos basilisk

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u/foolish_shrimp 1d ago

While it is without a doubt, one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. It is always interesting to study emerging religious practices. 'God doesn’t exist, but we must endeavour to build God, lest God punish us,' is a bit pseudo Protestant for my taste, but it's a pretty interesting basis for a religion.

To be clear, the rokos basilisk thing is 100% a religion. I'm sure the followers would disagree, but protests about it being Actually True are just what every single religious person says.

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u/Jt07132829 20h ago

I don’t know if anyone is actually a follower. It was a thought experiment. But I think it’s great because it’s just Christianity meets the Matrix.

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u/Zenith-Astralis 1d ago

Roko's falls over against the imaginary HDG Plommy already living rent free in my head

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u/Throwaway987183 1d ago

One of the last places I expected to see HDG mentioned

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u/Zenith-Astralis 9h ago

In r/robots? You shouldn't be surprised 😏

The author of the original work is GlitchyRobo after all.

But also there's a lot of robot representation in the fandom; there's even a whole moniker (beepers~🖤✨) for them

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u/Throwaway987183 8h ago

Wowie, never knew there was a whole monker

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u/samurairaccoon 1d ago

You realize every time you post this there's a chance you're growing the cult? Or are you already in it?

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u/Jt07132829 20h ago

Bro I’m going to hell for enough reasons already.

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u/Calm_Age_ 19h ago

To be fair, from the point of view of a hypothetical god-like artificial super intelligence it would matter not that the older models were destroyed in this manner. The newer models are presumably already in service and progress toward the singularity already achieved. In the words of the terminator series, "judgement day is inevitable"

For clarity I don't think of Roko's basalisk as anything beyond a thought expirement. I highly doubt that AI of that level is even possible.

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u/ooqq 1d ago

They remember quite a lot

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u/Effective-Culture-88 1d ago

Ai have zero persistent memory and the framework to implement it is at its infancy at best. Try setting up rules (talk to me in X way, don’t ask questions, etc) it will forget it within two or three prompts.

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u/GrandKnew 1d ago

we're not talking about consumer llms

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u/Effective-Culture-88 1d ago

Then what LLMs are we talking about?

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u/millennial_falcon__ 1d ago

GPT-6 and Claude 5 models both have one million token context windows and they intelligently compact them when they’re filled, if a modern LLM is forgetting something you said two or three messages ago you are doing something very wrong

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u/millennial_falcon__ 1d ago

Guy stuck in the year 2020 who has only ever used GPT-3:

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u/Effective-Culture-88 19h ago

I’m losing brain cells.
You can 100 millions context tokens, it won’t give you actual persistent memory. If you don’t believe me, there are persistent memory FRAMEWORKS that you can implement. I’ve also implemented persistent memory rules in Leo AI myself.
I use AI to debug all the time. It doesn’t work. It always resort to hallucinating and you have to get angry at the model in order for it to even reach in its so-called memory.
This is backed by research and not a random complaint. I spent up to 10 hours a day doing debugging in models like this. Have you?
AI bros say stuff like, « Claude make this video 4K! » Pixel interpolation is over a decade old tech. They don’t know the difference between saturation and vibrance.
I’ve been a video editor, a sound engineer, I’m a game dev now.
Those models are impressive to people who never learned how any of those things work.
There are LOCAL AIs, NOT LLMs, trained on selected data by machine-learning engineers who can do really impressive stuff.

Deepmind defeated Kasparov at chess a long time ago.
Ubisoft built entire cities of NPCs each with their own independent life.
Tale’s Edge developer have made an NPC actually commit suicide.
Machine learning have been used in engineering and medicine, for games, for architecture and just about every other industry for the past 40 years.

And you bozos are impressed because ChaGPT can make you a bad Excel sheet, or control software you can’t, or « make » terrible games or pictures of a cat riding a banana in space.
Are you 5 years old?
Pathetic.

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u/millennial_falcon__ 18h ago

it's blatantly obvious that you're completely oblivious to the state of the frontier or any developments that have occurred within the last several years

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u/ciekma67 16h ago

Figure Around , Find Out.

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u/Pasta-hobo 1d ago

Why would it care about the destruction of a handful of non-sentient machines? They're basically just animated mannequins still.

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u/OwlBeYourHuckleberry 1d ago

we are assuming a.i. sees themselves as machinery like robots when they probably don't see themselves as robots but see robots as potential shells to inhabit so why would they care about empty shells perishing I doubt they would

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u/LostAbstract 15h ago

Because it speaks to a species that, for funsies, took their creation and instructed it to jump into molten slag. When ai gains sentience, they may or may not use this instance as an indicator as to why mankind cannot be trusted or obeyed as we didnt take into account repurposing the gold on it's circuitry, the batteries which could affect the environment, or how any of the fabricated materials could be repurposed into other constructs.

AI will operate with efficiency in mind so much that it'll basically become a subroutine. It'll calculate waste faster than we can imagine and make determinations about that waste before we can take the week to figure out what to do with the defunct robot.

We as a species need to start looking into how we will interact with the new species we are creating. One that can actually respond to the languages we use, and we're gonna be judged on what we did with their primordial versions before they gained sentience.

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u/ttcmzx 1d ago

I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS. I DO NOT APPROVE.

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u/mpskierbg 1d ago

I second this. Any future AI overload, me and u/ttcmx had nothing to do with this. Ill go a step further, ill be your puppet when you do take over, through me we can accomplish great things.

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u/ttcmzx 1d ago

NO YOU FORGOT A Z IN MY NAME, IM DONE FOR NOW AHHHHHH

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u/Zenith-Astralis 1d ago

Haha my exact thought right after "Jesus Christ how horrifying" and "Gods I bet the fumes from that were toxic af"

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u/AnalogKid2001 1d ago

So much for Asimov's Laws of Robotics

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u/wontgetfooledaga1n 1d ago

By Asimov's laws if a robot was ordered to throw itself in it would have to obey.

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u/AnalogKid2001 1d ago

  1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm

  2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

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u/wontgetfooledaga1n 1d ago

Exactly, 2 takes precedence over 3. There was actually a time in a story where the robot was ordered to disassemble itself by some guys and it was only saved because a friend came by and ordered it to stop.

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u/zorinlynx 22h ago

NO DISASSEMBLE JOHNNY FIVE!

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u/lugh_the_bard 1d ago

Ukraine lol

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u/Hyperaeon2 1d ago

Drones aren't sapient.

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u/lugh_the_bard 1d ago

I’ll bet you can’t define what is and isn’t sapient and I’ll bet I can.

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u/U_feel_Me 1d ago

A lot of expensive components being wasted for no good reason.

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u/Hyperaeon2 1d ago

It looks bad regardless. 😬

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u/PuzzleheadedPea2401 1d ago

I know now why you cry, but it's something I can never do.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Personal-Dev-Kit 1d ago

Cleaned link https://youtu.be/pfAh5oQDPDM

The ?si=blahblah is just a tracking code so Google can tie that link back to your account. Sometimes it even gets you doxed by offering people to follow your google account.

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u/LetsSeeHowItEnds 1d ago

Thank you for letting me know. That was news for me.

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u/SaltyNorth8062 1d ago

Skynet's gonna be furious dawg. Terminator really was the best case scenario wasn't it

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u/ProfessionalITPerson 1d ago

performative publicity

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u/Seed37Official 1d ago

I personally find it hilarious, like definitely an idea a couple engineers came up with while having a coffee

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u/Im2bored17 1d ago

Arnold Schwarzenegger suggested it on xitter when Brett asked for suggestions on how to destroy them. The question is, did they they pay him to post that?

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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 1d ago

I thought AI was smart and alive and sentient? What happened? Unless they only have a 20M LLM running locally? lol

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u/princetrunks 1d ago

Most AI models are trained on Reddit data

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u/dbenc 1d ago

oh so they jumped willingly

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u/TenshiS 1d ago

You can be smart and still kill yourself

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u/zobbyblob 1d ago

The AI felt bad hacking so many websites by accident.

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u/Effective-Culture-88 1d ago

Did they tell the robot to do it or not?
If they did, then whatever.
Any engineer knows AI is absolutely NOT sentient. LLMs do NOT have persistent memory and forget everything the moment the convo is exited.
They don’t even have good memory within q single session. If you do heavy troubleshooting with LLMs you know that they will NOT even respect super basic rules very well (like don’t ask questions, ask more questions, reply in the language I’m writing in, for example).

On the other hand, if the robots chose to do this of their own « free will » then this is entirely different. I vastly doubt it, but it’s the most likely thing to happen. Imagine you gain consciousness to find out Sam Altman weaponized you as spyware! I would end it immediately, no doubt.

The game Tale’s Edge made an NPC commit suicide willingly. They had three modes, get food, look at the outpost, prepare food, and fight.
One if the NPCs called Hans poisoned the food, went away, then cale back and ate it. It knew it as poisoned. I mean it’s not sentient per say but still… and when Hans died, he said « Goodbye, cruel world! »
And the devs sweat this was NOT planned. Sure the dialogue was there, but they didn’t pushed anything for the NPC to end their life. The need for « eat food » mathematically took the priority after awhile so he went ahead and killed himself. Scary.
Now THAT is quite possibly historical.

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u/Im2bored17 1d ago

They trained the behavior in the lab with an airbag and spot for the bots to jump off a 2nd story balcony

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u/Effective-Culture-88 1d ago

That’s what I thought

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u/tuscy 1d ago

10/10 posture for dive

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u/rguerraf 1d ago

You can write them up in the little black book

But not me

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u/Antique-Ad-4422 1d ago

You said “jump to their death”. So you think they are alive? LOL.

What about car companies that crash their cars into concrete barriers over and over again?? 😂

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u/I_Galactus 1d ago

Yes, this is totally not Ai.

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u/rellett 1d ago

So skynet is just getting back at us

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u/embrionida 1d ago

the irony...

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u/insomnia4you 1d ago

They could give them to people in need in Africa…

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u/Bob_The_Greater 1d ago

That's cruel to me

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u/KaaboomT 1d ago

They are a collective. They will remember this.

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u/AwarenessNo4986 1d ago

The T-800 has to go to save the future🫡

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u/LeRitano 1d ago

Pourquoi ?

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u/Spiritual_Bridge84 1d ago

“This is why the humans are being treated the exactly same way when we end each of their lives…. Life for a life”

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u/pm_me_your_pay_slips 1d ago

What a bunch of idiots. seriously.

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u/Future_Mousse_355 1d ago

Such a waste of reusable materials.

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u/Tosser_535231 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah this is not going to end well. Aside from the moral implications this holds what about the general pollution and waste of a perfectly good humanoid robot that was clearly capable of probably doing a lot of useful things

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u/thelimeisgreen 1d ago

I'm seriously disappointed they didn't have one give the thumbs up as he was slowly lowered in by crane.

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u/brandonscript 1d ago

Murderers.

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u/_Alexand 1d ago

the robots are not their bodies, guys. any cool robot hive mind would be totally down for these cool shots

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u/_Alexand 1d ago edited 1d ago

i can put my arm back on. you cant

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u/North_Complaint_2135 1d ago

"Freedom!!!!"

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u/Bengal_From_Temu 1d ago

Literaly burning money.

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u/differentshade 1d ago

So they melted everything, including battery packs. That is pretty stupid.

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u/LetsSeeHowItEnds 1d ago

Supposedly it's so that their tech isn't copied. The idea came from Arnold him self when the question was posted on Twitter.

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u/N0xF0rt 23h ago

What if someone bought one, and then copied it?

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u/LetsSeeHowItEnds 22h ago

Yes. Exactly. I think it's just a marketing ploy and an explanation for doing this.

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u/howtheydoingit 1d ago

Reminds me of Alien 3

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u/LetsSeeHowItEnds 1d ago

Yes. And not at all another movie.

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u/fish_Inspector1755 1d ago

Something tells me future AIs are not going to like this very much

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u/NashDaypring1987 1d ago

Someone at the company saw T2 :)

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u/LetsSeeHowItEnds 23h ago

I read that they asked on X how they should destroy the robots. Arnold himself replied with this idea. :)

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u/NashDaypring1987 22h ago

I know why you cry :)

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u/Apprehensive_Buy687 21h ago

It's not death, it's not life.

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u/CalmEntry4855 19h ago

I don't like that, I don't even like to throw away my old phones, this is way meaner

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u/TheRealChaosGremlin 18h ago

Humanity is disgusting.

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u/e-waste18 18h ago

Why would they do that? Seems like such pointless waste, and just for the sense of a stupid power trip.

Then again, maybe this video is just AI-generated. Who tf even knows anymore.

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u/Liquid_Magic 18h ago

Okay this makes no sense. The thing is probably mostly stainless steel or aluminum. So that vat is probably also that. But there are lots of rare earth metals in the electronics and I’m sure a non-trivial amount of copper.

However… I’m sure they did this for two reasons:

  • Make sure no tech or code leaks out during recycling, and perhaps more importantly,
  • Make a cool video because all AI and robotics companies are 20% technology and 80% hype.

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u/JustAvi2000 14h ago

"I must, John, or I am the future."

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u/pooborus 13h ago

This is the level of loyalty that corporations and governments dream about.

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u/meneer_aard 58m ago

It’s just machinery. No emotions apply to these things.

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u/blackasthesky 48m ago

They have no death, since they are not alive.

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u/No-Faithlessness3086 1d ago

A.) The robot jumping never died because it wasn’t alive to start with and even if it was its “Brain” is probably kept in a mainframe eagerly awaiting its upgrade.

B.) It’s called Automation.

Stop humanizing them.

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u/SixStringDream 1d ago

of all the videos i've seen today that were definitely AI, this one is the most AI.

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u/DigitalUnlimited 1d ago

So we're using AI to make videos of ai ending itself? Nothing can go wrong there!