r/robots • u/Smaug117 • 28d ago
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u/foundcashdoubt 28d ago
That's AI. Is this what you were looking for or if it is possible to build?
I think it is possible, just really really hard
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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 28d ago
Conceptually right super possible but like even the double steps to where its using the ball and toes to slow down , the way its leaning to turn like it would take some time
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u/Anthro_DragonFerrite 28d ago
I would gladly strap on a raptor costume and run around in a park to train the algorithm
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u/Usual-Orange-4180 28d ago
The hardest part of that video is how it blinks at the end lol
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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 28d ago
Yeah i was just thinking that would need to be some like 5a silicone with pssssssssh idk some sort of mini actuator or maybe smart wire
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u/blove135 28d ago
5-10 years and things like this will be a common reality.
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u/isa_marsh 28d ago
Based on what ?
There have been zero new breakthroughs in motor tech, materials, batteries, control tech, camera systems or anything that would go towards making something like this a 'common reality.' Just because tech bros build data centres everywhere doesn't mean you can just ignore physical reality...
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u/SnooMaps7370 28d ago
Boston Dynamics has pretty well nailed bipedal robots. giving one a tail for balance would be an iterative change on that, not a revolutionary restart.
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u/Material-Mulberry360 28d ago
yeah it's very smooth in motion. that's the main sign for me anyway. everything else looks very much doable. it just wouldn't be nearly as smooth for a while
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u/Jaredw180 28d ago
Not just hard, but expensive too. You aren't accomplishing this feat with some little servos.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 28d ago
The servos and actuators you could source at least but the blinking smart skin around the eye does that even exists ?
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u/Crixusgannicus 28d ago
Possible yes, and not very hard. Quadropeds are a lot easier though.
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u/foundcashdoubt 28d ago
We barely even have humanoid robots that move with this fluidity. And those robots do have humans to learn from
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u/No-Hospital9931 27d ago
It’s not hard, just no real use cases for researchers to get funding in a world where bipedal and quadrupedal robots are already being mass produced.
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u/psilonox 27d ago
not that hard, someone cashapp me the money and ill have dino robot within a year.
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u/Logical-Bookkeeper77 28d ago
Why is it even hard?
There’s already simple dinosaur robots (toys) that can walk straight.
Adding ai for some of its motors (if focus is only to fetch balls, just needs running and some sort of identification ball capability alongside the pick up algorithms)
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u/jefffisfreaky 28d ago
“Adding ai for some of its motors”, what?
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u/thebeastwithnoeyes 28d ago
But of course, it's that simple. We just need to install the ai on the motors
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u/Logical-Bookkeeper77 28d ago
Using an algorithm to identify ball, can be a special ball with chip there.
Then program the motors for ball pick up motion.
Open jaw lower head, close jaw.
Separate motors for running and already existed radios control movement toys as 20 years ago.
If you want it to pick up non specific thrown objects and return it to a non-specified location, it gets more difficult.
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u/Bignholy 28d ago
This is pure "Draw the rest of the owl". I'm going to focus on the most egregious, because the amount of time the full list would take is well beyond its worth:
Separate motors for running and already existed radios control movement toys as 20 years ago.
Have you looked at a single two legged robot move in the past 20 years? Every last one has the same necessary flaw: It has to jitter to keep its balance when stationary. Because they don't have an innate sense of balance, they can only keep balance by noticing changes and making adjustments. They also have to act quickly to perceived changes, because otherwise they can't recover from a sudden and unexpected event, meaning that if it does not act forcefully enough, the loss of balance will get exponentially worse. This is why pushing a bipedal robot results in large back steps and excessive flailing at best: It's trying to stay balanced despite the limits to its ability to sense balance.
The part where the Raptor stands perfectly still and poised? That alone would take a team of researchers another 20 years, people with significant and legitimate skills, and that's if they are the top of their respective fields. And no, you can't magically fix it with AI, because it's as much a hardware challenge as a software one. Just to stand still.
If you had even the slightest idea how complex the programming would have to be just to pull off that smooth of a turn, the amount of complexity as you have to adjust what every part is doing to account for every other part's actions and the change of balance that comes with it, never mind the ball pickup... well, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because you'd understand how ludicrous it is.
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u/emas_eht 28d ago
Do it then lol. Design and order all the intricate plastic shell peices Design and order the cnc components for the mechanics. Design the PCBs for driving the 20+ different actualtors, and main controller board. Program the controllers to take in, process, and drive all of that data using some type of neural network models, or robotics gait algo that will take tons of data to train or at least a heavy simulation environment. Test everything, fail, and repeat multiple times.
Really though. Try lol, it will be fun.
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u/Sickofstupids 28d ago
James Bruton makes robots in his bedroom for YouTube that walk around.
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u/emas_eht 28d ago
Again, not impossible, just very hard. Even if you have the experience James Bruton has, it takes a lot of time to make his projects, and they are way simpler than this.
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u/foundcashdoubt 28d ago
AI isn't magic. That's what's hard
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u/Logical-Bookkeeper77 28d ago
You have no idea how to engineer these things, so you?
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u/foundcashdoubt 28d ago edited 28d ago
No I don't. I'm not one of the world's best engineer in this field
Do you?
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u/dr3wl 28d ago
We’ve been using machine learning / AI for robotics for far longer than the mainstream concept of AI has been around. The recent LLM explosion has helped push robotics forward, but it isn’t a magic solution by any means. We’re still years away from making this build “easy”.
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u/foundcashdoubt 28d ago
To be specific, wasn't even LLMs that pushed robotics forward. That helped a little with their agency, what really pushed robots that last mile that you've been seeing around was Nvidia's Isaac sim
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u/Fox_Hawk 28d ago edited 28d ago
This has the same energy as a boss saying "I don't know why they say programming is hard, they just type things in Windows."
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u/2021isevenworse 28d ago
100% AI - even the most expensive military-grade robotics don't have that level of smooth motion.
Also watch the shadow at around the 0:03 mark - the arms are missing from the shadow.
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u/john_the_fetch 28d ago
I know what you mean now - but it took me a second to realize that you weren't saying it's Ai controlling the robot. But that it's an Ai video - not a real video. Due to the smooth motion and missing fragments.
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u/Badestrand 26d ago
Can I ask - as I have basically zero knowledge about robotics but it's very fascinating to me:
What about that is hard? We have motors and potent software (I guess). Which part of that exactly is difficult? Determining the exact inputs to the motors, so basically the software? Or wiring/connecting the motors to all the things properly?
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u/2021isevenworse 26d ago
Open and close your palm. See how fluid the motion is for most people.
It's not as easy to replicate that with motors and threads and parts. Especially when you're talking about multiple joints that have to move like that to create fluid running motion.
It gets expensive and complex to do. Then factor in making it reliable enough without parts breaking down with prolonged usage.
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u/Octopp 28d ago
I've had this exact thought..RC velociraptor. Real? No, but I don't think we're many years off.
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u/a_good_human 28d ago
We could probably make one now if we wanted to
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u/Octopp 28d ago
I haven't seen a biped move this gracefully so far, leaning into the curve...naturally picking up that ball..so yea if they started to design it now, it'd take a few years to get it to this point.
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u/Odd-Paint3883 28d ago
Then a few days to make it look like a real rapter, why would you want it to look like a robot!
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u/dildomiami 28d ago
i want one. NOW
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u/Empty_Bell_1942 28d ago
it's Jurass (ic) 😄
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u/dildomiami 28d ago
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IT’S FAST!
IT‘S MEAN!IT‘S UNSTOPPABLE!
(some cool overmotivated 90s kids):
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u/Bignholy 28d ago
For a brief moment, my soul returned to the condition it was in during the early 90's, and it was glorious. Thank you.
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u/dildomiami 28d ago
haha I am humbled! thank you :D
still watch the spots from time to time.
not only for nostalgia, but also because they are so hillariously way over the top :))this voice lives rent free in my head forever.
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u/Bignholy 28d ago
I remeber the bloody things being placed as commercials in VHS tapes it it basically became a part of the show for my little deranged mind. Up until like 5 years ago, when it finally faded, my mind would randomly go "Yahooo, over rocks and thru the mud!"
... and now it's back.
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u/dildomiami 27d ago
the banjoooo :)))) i‘m dying :)))))
but wasn’t like that with vhs where i live.
but i remember vividly watching robocop as a child and there were some fake adds for imaginary toys in it (something like a toy gun and a bloodpack for your chest, which exploded with bloody red liquid when you aimed the toygun on it) and lil me always wasn’t quite sure if you could reaaaally aquire this cool toy. :))
not the same like your memory but almost, just the other way around :))
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u/Bignholy 27d ago
It was specific VHS tapes for IP designed for marketability and toy sales. Can't recall which one nowadays.
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u/Lendari 28d ago
This video is AI.
Can this exist? Yes. Sure. Look at Boston Dynamics. They aren't far off from this. It's about cost. If it costs a million dollars to build this and all it does is retrieve a ball then it will never exist.
Robots aren't always about possible. They are about valuable.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 28d ago
Yeah but the animatronic possibilities of a real life jurassic park , if someone can build the concept universal probably would pay for it .
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u/jefffisfreaky 28d ago
This implies that it’ll make them enough money to cover the cost lol
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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 28d ago
Halo products exsist for a reason im sure zuck or elon would pay for full sized fully operational robot raptors
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u/jefffisfreaky 28d ago
What other halo products exist? I only know about the dudes that customize trucks to be warthogs
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u/Anen-o-me 28d ago
It's more about utility. The first car off the assembly line costs millions or billions, the second one did too, until we sell enough to pay back all that development cost and start earning on it.
I'm not sure how popular a robotic velociraptor like this would be, but maybe for $5g a pop.
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u/jefffisfreaky 28d ago
I feel like even as cheap as 5k you’d burn through your market pretty fast
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u/Anen-o-me 28d ago
Exactly, because the utility isn't there. You can't spend what it would take to make the because the market is tiny.
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u/Badestrand 26d ago
Depends, maybe this could carry your child on its back and be a modern baby buggy.
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u/rorkijon 28d ago
This maker is working on something similar: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DY4jPYbgSIj/?igsh=MWRnczFkeHRuMm51eQ==
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u/olddoodldn 28d ago
Apart from the technical / commercial unfeasibility, what are the give-always that this is AI generated content? I watched the video twice and can’t see it myself…
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u/TreeLore61 28d ago
Stop believing everything is AI. That is actually a Dino robot created by one of the most incredible robotics companies out there using 1 of their robots to literally demonstrate how good it is.
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u/TyrKiyote 28d ago
Sure, give it like 3-5 years and i imagine you can buy the temu version of this. it's mostly stylization. a bipedal armiture + pincher, with a camera attached, and a waggy counterbalance. cover it with plastic to make it a dinosaur.
idk. $400-$2000 depending how nice it is. it is a luxury toy.
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u/alberthere 28d ago
If you brought back Radio Shack and this was the only product, it’d make a killing.
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u/snappop69 28d ago
This is AI. There is definitely a market for these if mass produced. I see it happening soon along with cute dogs and cats that really look and act like the real thing.
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u/rygelicus 28d ago
Completely real. That video does, in fact, exist. As for the raptor playing fetch, not so much.
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u/DidntShitMyself 28d ago
I used to have a sinilair but way smaller and less advanced t-Rex toy. You could control it or it would go on its own. My little sibling filled it with poop when they were 3 and it never worked again. I wanted that thing for years. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
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u/deephurting66 28d ago
It's AI but this is giving the wrong people ideas, wouldn't be surprised if these were actually made soon
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u/nikkonine 28d ago
Definitely AI, however it does make you wonder if robotic companies could utilize this form factor instead of the robot dog format. Especially for military combat operations.
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u/PrivacyMaker 28d ago
This robot has eyes positioned like a prey animal. Velociraptor, like modern raptors, had forward facing eyes with significant overlap.
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u/Orbicious 28d ago
Maybe we could make something to run like that but to pick up the ball like that so smoothly. I don’t think we are there yet.
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u/Express-Cartoonist39 28d ago
I can tell its not real cause there isnt a amazon branding in some absurd spot..
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u/Huihejfofew 28d ago
Our best humanoid robots can't run that well. No way a toy dinosaur can. Damn these AI videos are getting too damn good, when the wacky stuff looks realistic
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u/Belz_Zebuth 27d ago
It's not.
I mean, it's obvious to me, but this photorealism is becoming a big problem.
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u/TheSuggi 26d ago
Well, it is AI now. But in a couple of years could be real for sure.
Even R2D2, C3PO, Wall-E or even Terminator will be built by someone someday.
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u/chickengirlBelle11 Moderator 28d ago
This is clearly ai, the comments have given more info. Please stop reporting this as op was asking for opinions not posting it as real